@AverageJoe1 saidYeah, be honest Joe. You don't really want to see the justification. You'd rather not know.
That is such a horrendous fact that of course I would like to see the justification. But is done, nevertheless, jut like Sonhouse's Jan 6, we have other fish to fry.
So Trump pardons 78 criminals, Biden invited over 15M illegal aliens to invade our country and our coffers and our people. Biden's problem, though, will haunt us for decades. Give me Trump with his sever ...[text shortened]... the hell could it be.
He did stop a lot wars, lives lost, lots of stuff, the accords. Tough job
@wildgrass saidDon't want to lose his expertise as president, that is for sure. But curiioius his reasoning, i do want to know. But look it all up? Naa, got a golf game in 45 minutes.gotta choose one
Yeah, be honest Joe. You don't really want to see the justification. You'd rather not know.
@AverageJoe1 saidThe fact the people, remember, they are HUMANS, some 80 killed now and now we know those boats were NOT headed to the US, but to Surinam and two killed who were clinging to wreckage with ZERO threat to anyone, that BTW is a WAR CRIME, which OF COURSE you would reply it was the FOG OF WAR, or some other BS CRAP from the drunkard Secdef Hegseth.
It looks like Trump‘s anti-drug policy is working once more, after shooting a few boats they have all stopped coming across the water. It is called a deterrent. Not a perfect process, but it sure has worked. Let’s keep the drugs out of our country kids
@AverageJoe1 saidHe is releasing drug dealers. Not a good drug policy, that is super obvious.
Don't want to lose his expertise as president, that is for sure. But curiioius his reasoning, i do want to know. But look it all up? Naa, got a golf game in 45 minutes.gotta choose one
@sonhouse saidWas it determined de facto that they were not a risk...lotta stuff going on....and yes, the fog of war.
The fact the people, remember, they are HUMANS, some 80 killed now and now we know those boats were NOT headed to the US, but to Surinam and two killed who were clinging to wreckage with ZERO threat to anyone, that BTW is a WAR CRIME, which OF COURSE you would reply it was the FOG OF WAR, or some other BS CRAP from the drunkard Secdef Hegseth.
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If it i all so obvious, our representtives would be in Special Session now. you fellers get a grip.
Take a seat, comedy hour about to begin. A faux drama of Biden being put in the dock for HIS pardons, mainly Hunter. Sun house will be the first witness to tell us all that neither Hunter nor Biden ever committed any crimes. That, no money is illgotten, and that there was no cozying up with the chinee.
Next week, Obama in the dock for the thousands he killed just like hegseth targeted the fishermen in their not-fishing boats. (78 of them I heard. But to use logic of Ghost in that thread on UK blessing Pakistanee marriages, 'no that many'. Certainly not as many as Obama wasted. Probably hapened whilh did his skppy hippity-hop up on a stage. Does Girly man Newsom have a hop, or does he just swagger, mimicing Tom Cruise as best he can,.
And the world turns.....................
@AverageJoe1 saidExactly what WAR was that? I didn't see Venezuelan jets trying to bomb our navy did we? No, we had a bunch of OUTBOARD motor boats being blasted out of the water, where Trump Via Hegseth is judge, jury and executioner.
Was it determined de facto that they were not a risk...lotta stuff going on....and yes, the fog of war.
The thing is, TWO problems, AT LEAST.
One is BESIDES killing them now there are no bodies to interrogate to find out names of BOSSES. So we kill off a bunch of low level boat drivers AND BTW, they were NOT headed to the US, they were headed to a bigger boat bound for Suriname, a country in SOUTH AMERICA.
And you fell hook line and sinker for the DRUNARD Hegseth saying Fog of War.
So now Trump is proven himself right, he can kill someone right out in the open and his base will STILL love him, just like you.
But they, Drunkard Hegseth and Trump, are in fact WAR CRIMINALS and that will be proven BTW.
The Japanese army slaughtered those folks clinging to life on shards of the boat destroyed and the Japanese SHOT those folks.
Which is why they were charged with war crimes.
It is EXACTLY what Trump Via Hegseth did, blow up people clinging to life on bits of the left over boat.
And ALSO, YOU don't get to make that decision, the COURTS will.
@AverageJoe1 saidSo, from which country does the fentenol in the US come?
It looks like Trump‘s anti-drug policy is working once more, after shooting a few boats they have all stopped coming across the water. It is called a deterrent. Not a perfect process, but it sure has worked. Let’s keep the drugs out of our country kids
And as supporters of anti-military intervention and non-regime change, hoe do you square this with the rhetoric mimmicking the building up to the Iraq war and the mobilization of an attack force near Venezuela?
Just wondering.
@Suzianne saidI looked this up, our government is making the decisions maybe based on intel with which we are not privy to. I simply trust people who are experts in this area. I should point out that some people, like Shav above, would have definitely voted NO on Truman's hunch that the japs/hiroshima should be bombed. Had he not done it, let's say that WWII would have lasted a long time.
Jesus, people.......
SHOW us the damned drugs already!
PROVE it to us these are drugs traffickers!
That is, if you could stop murdering people for 5 minutes.......
The fishermen all know what is happening to boats in the sea, so, they take a risk when they go out there. It is the fault of the victims! Meanwhile, we patrol the seas for nefarious activities and go the Truman Gambit, if for no other reason than to make it a lesson to the drug lords.
We could do nothing, I guess. And Suzianne, our elected officials are not required to inform us of such matters, nor get our permission. You and I would vote two different ways, both having the exact information. THAT means it would be, lets say, an emotional vote. I don't think so.
Prove? Here's an idea,,,,,let Veneuala prove to us that there are no drugs.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou have this completely backwards.
I looked this up, our government is making the decisions maybe based on intel with which we are not privy to. I simply trust people who are experts in this area. I should point out that some people, like Shav above, would have definitely voted NO on Truman's hunch that the japs/hiroshima should be bombed. Had he not done it, let's say that WWII would have lasted a lon ...[text shortened]... I don't think so.
Prove? Here's an idea,,,,,let Veneuala prove to us that there are no drugs.
Our elected officials answer to US, not we to them.
Why is it always the right that wants dictators?
You people are just stupid if you think that's the best way to go.
@Suzianne saidSo let me get this straight. I know you don’t mean this, but when you say they answer to us, does that mean that they come to us to vote on whether to perform a particular military action? Should Truman have pulled the entire country to vote on whether to bomb Hiroshima. These are simple questions, just to keep it simple.
You have this completely backwards.
Our elected officials answer to US, not we to them.
Why is it always the right that wants dictators?
You people are just stupid if you think that's the best way to go.
I am trying to get the gist of what you are saying
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@AverageJoe1 saidNo, pinhead. Meaning if they do something against the mood of the nation, they can and should be removed from office. Presidents serve at the pleasure of the People. History is replete with what happens when we keep madmen in office too long. And one term was already too much for a madman like Trump. As a nation, we were fools to elect that madman again. We should have bailed on Nixon after one term as well. There are reasons why Roosevelt was elected four times.
So let me get this straight. I know you don’t mean this, but when you say they answer to us, does that mean that they come to us to vote on whether to perform a particular military action? Should Truman have pulled the entire country to vote on whether to bomb Hiroshima. These are simple questions, just to keep it simple.
I am trying to get the gist of what you are saying
@AverageJoe1 said
I looked this up, our government is making the decisions maybe based on intel with which we are not privy to. I simply trust people who are experts in this area. I should point out that some people, like Shav above, would have definitely voted NO on Truman's hunch that the japs/hiroshima should be bombed. Had he not done it, let's say that WWII would have lasted a lon ...[text shortened]... I don't think so.
Prove? Here's an idea,,,,,let Veneuala prove to us that there are no drugs.
I simply trust people who are experts in this area.
Sure, except scientists and economists and journalists. And, you voted for a freaking reality TV star to run the whole country.
@Suzianne saidI will discount all of your rage in the balance of your post, an opinion with which many would take issue. Just one person's opinion.....you, a person who holds opinions such as taking money from tax payers to pay college tuition loans of college graduates. (Note how just this sentence contains more fact than any of your post, which has no fact).
No, pinhead. Meaning if they do something against the mood of the nation, they can and should be removed from office. Presidents serve at the pleasure of the People. History is replete with what happens when we keep madmen in office too long. And one term was already too much for a madman like Trump. As a nation, we were fools to elect that madman again. We should have ...[text shortened]... led on Nixon after one term as well. There are reasons why Roosevelt was elected four times.
But we all wonder how you can summarily conclude what the 'mood of the nation' is. What is the mood of the nation with Biden dictating (sonhouse? Is this a dictator?) that tax money be used to pay selected citizens who have loans that he thinks we should pay off?. You must tell us what the 'mood of the nation' was, and how you know that??