Originally posted by vivify
In your OP, you talked about "forcing beliefs" down students' throats. Conservatives are doing just that by forcing creationism down the throats of students. At least the students in your OP were college-age, and have more of an ability to make up their own minds; conservatives are shamelessly forcing their beliefs into a system that teaches young children- ...[text shortened]... reasons why you (or conservatives in general) aren't taken seriously: the monumental hypocrisy.

Fun exercise. Here's my list of just those people from most heroic to most evil.

Martin Luther King
Gandhi
Nelson Mandela
Albert Einstein
Isaac Newton
Margret Thatcher
Bill Gates
Bush Jr.
Jesus
Mother Theresa *
Karl Marx
Lenin
Mao
Stalin
Saddam
Osama Bin Laden
Hitler



* The great Hitch ruined Mother Theresa for me for all time.

Originally posted by sh76
Fun exercise. Here's my list of just those people from most heroic to most evil.

Martin Luther King
Gandhi
Nelson Mandela
Albert Einstein
Isaac Newton
Margret Thatcher
Bill Gates
Bush Jr.
Jesus
Mother Theresa *
Karl Marx
Lenin
Mao
Stalin
Saddam
Osama Bin Laden
Hitler



* The great Hitch ruined Mother Theresa for me for all time.

Since not much is known of the historical Jesus, I don't think anyone can make a sound judgement with respect to his character or deeds.

Originally posted by whodey
Jesus is #9? Why so low? You are really putting MLK above Jesus whom he followed?

Htiler below Stalin? Why since Stalin killed millions upon millions more?

Wait a second, you seriously put "W" above Jesus?!!?!?!?!?!

That tears it! I'm reporting you to the mods! 😠

Originally posted by sh76
I penalized Jesus because it's unclear exactly what he did and did not do. I do not take the New Testament as Gospel (yuk yuk). While Jesus probably had some good ideas about fighting corruption, I'd say the jury is very much out on exactly what his views were and how and whether he actually did much (aside from getting Crucified, of course).

Originally posted by sh76
I penalized Jesus because it's unclear exactly what he did and did not do. I do not take the New Testament as Gospel (yuk yuk). While Jesus probably had some good ideas about fighting corruption, I'd say the jury is very much out on exactly what his views were and how and whether he actually did much (aside from getting Crucified, of course).

Originally posted by whodey
If you took at face value what was said of him in the Bible how would you rate him?

Incidentally, it is still no reason to rate him below "W". You are basically rating him on what you don't think you know, which means you should not rate him at all.

Originally posted by sh76
If I took the NT at face value, then of course I'd rate him #1.

Originally posted by whodey
On what basis did you rate him so low then?

Were you rating him merely on self perceived ignorance?

You then rate one of his followers, MLK, #1?

Originally posted by sh76
I penalized Jesus because it's unclear exactly what he did and did not do. I do not take the New Testament as Gospel (yuk yuk). While Jesus probably had some good ideas about fighting corruption, I'd say the jury is very much out on exactly what his views were and how and whether he actually did much (aside from getting Crucified, of course).

Originally posted by Great King Rat
Have you ever considered writing a novel, Whodey? Don't worry, spell checks have gotten really good.

I mean, you're insane to the point of complete madness, but you have a wonderful imagination. You should totally use that.

Originally posted by C Hess
If there is no god then there is no ultimate authority, silly.

Originally posted by sh76
* The great Hitch ruined Mother Theresa for me for all time.