Originally posted by Quarl This is exactly what I tried (it seems unsuccessfully) to outline in my post previous to yours.
Let me state it plainly: Those in power want a level of US Ebola infection to force unlimited funding for an all out effort to develop an Ebola cure.
That is the ONLY logical conclusion a thinking person could possibly come to when unfettered entrance is granted to both infected and possibly infected individuals.
Quite well thought out. A bit like a "false flag" event to accomplish what could not be done directly.
Since starting this thread I heard someone explain why the government wants ebola brought into our country: funding.
Ebola will never get the funding that AIDS receives because Ebola isn't in the US. Bring Ebola to the US, then it will get more funding and Africa gets helps.
Originally posted by KazetNagorra Do you really believe the notion that diseases are brought into the US "only now" is worthy of serious consideration?
Do you really believe that the American medical system hasn't eliminated quite a few diseases that in the past plagued mankind?
I do believe that government will use whatever it takes to get the laws it wants, or to make its actions more palatable.
Originally posted by Eladar Why should I play games with a leftist?
Perhaps that's your cup of tea, I see it as a waste of time.
Everyone has a right to argue their point of view. I choose to point out weak arguments, even if you don't convince them, you can debunk their arguments.
Originally posted by normbenign Do you really believe that the American medical system hasn't eliminated quite a few diseases that in the past plagued mankind?
I do believe that government will use whatever it takes to get the laws it wants, or to make its actions more palatable.
Aha, so someone says "A and B" where A is an utterly trivial statement, and B is a ludicrous one, which takes either an iota of knowledge or a femtosecond of Googling to refute. Then I say the statement is ridiculous, from which you conclude that it must be "A" that I have problems with, and not "B"... even after I already explicitly state that it is, in fact, "B" which is the intellectual equivalent of rolling around in pig faeces while reading an Ayn Rand novel?
Originally posted by KazetNagorra Aha, so someone says "A and B" where A is an utterly trivial statement, and B is a ludicrous one, which takes either an iota of knowledge or a femtosecond of Googling to refute. Then I say the statement is ridiculous, from which you conclude that it must be "A" that I have problems with, and not "B"... even after I already explicitly state that i ...[text shortened]... is the intellectual equivalent of rolling around in pig faeces while reading an Ayn Rand novel?
Another irrelevant distraction. Commonly known as bamboozling with BS.
Originally posted by KazetNagorra Whatever you say.
Diseases have "only now" been brought to the US. Agree/Disagree?
That wasn't the point belittled originally. You moved the goal posts. Of course European diseases came with Europeans, and some of them have been virtually eliminated.
Those infectious diseases came with travelers or immigrants unintentionally. Is there a reason to suspect that introduction of this virus is at least partly intentional?
Originally posted by normbenign That wasn't the point belittled originally. You moved the goal posts. Of course European diseases came with Europeans, and some of them have been virtually eliminated.
Those infectious diseases came with travelers or immigrants unintentionally. Is there a reason to suspect that introduction of this virus is at least partly intentional?
That wasn't the point belittled originally.
Yes, it was.
You moved the goal posts.
No, I didn't.
Of course European diseases came with Europeans, and some of them have been virtually eliminated.
So?
Is there a reason to suspect that introduction of this virus is at least partly intentional?
Originally posted by Eladar The comment is only for the US because unlike other countries in the US the Hospitals are not a wing of the government.
Who is charged with public safety?
The government or hospitals? If you don't like hospitals and want to call it the medical community, go for it.
To be specific, I'm talking about ebola. Who is supposed to protect the US populatio ...[text shortened]... no right to say that it doesn't need to quarantine and making it the Hospital's responsibility.
I hardly think Ebola is your major concern...
How many gun related deaths do you have per year? 31.000 in 2010.
How many people die in car accidents? 33.500 in 2012.
How many Ebola related deaths per year? Uh... 0.
I think you should conquer your fear and look at the bigger picture.