Everyone. is it acceptable to allow someone to walk up to a voting table and vote, without showing an ID.....Without showing who they are? Keeping in mind, that ID must be shown for such things as buying whiskey, get medical care, fill a prescription, enter govt buildings or NYC office buildings. get on an airplane???
@averagejoe1 saidthe last thing these lefties want is a fair election
Everyone. is it acceptable to allow someone to walk up to a voting table and vote, without showing an ID.....Without showing who they are? Keeping in mind, that ID must be shown for such things as buying whiskey, get medical care, fill a prescription, enter govt buildings or NYC office buildings. get on an airplane???
@mott-the-hoople saidLet's give them a chance to answer the question!!! 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 Should be momentarily !! 😆
the last thing these lefties want is a fair election
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@averagejoe1 said.
Everyone. is it acceptable to allow someone to walk up to a voting table and vote, without showing an ID.....Without showing who they are? Keeping in mind, that ID must be shown for such things as buying whiskey, get medical care, fill a prescription, enter govt buildings or NYC office buildings. get on an airplane???
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https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/2020-election-most-secure-history-dhs/#post-update-40aa9fd8
In a joint statement, members of the Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council, CISA Assistant Director, the National Secretaries of State, and others called the 2020 election the "most secure in American history"
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/01/940819896/barr-says-no-election-fraud-has-been-found-by-federal-authorities
Barr Says No Election Fraud Has Been Found By Federal Authorities
Give it a rest.
@vivify saidIrrelevant, Viv.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/2020-election-most-secure-history-dhs/#post-update-40aa9fd8In a joint statement, members of the Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council, CISA Assistant Director, the National Secretaries of State, and others called the 2020 election the "most secure in American history"
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/ ...[text shortened]... sBarr Says No Election Fraud Has Been Found By Federal Authorities
Give it a rest.
it's - what will happen with this new law passing. it's all about the power.
@vivify saidEarl of Trumps....Look at Vivify, once again proving my time-worn point in the threads that a liberal CANNOT answer a straightforward question, they cannot even state an opinion. UN believable. His response means nothing and no one will go the incessant link. I Hate links!!!
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https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/2020-election-most-secure-history-dhs/#post-update-40aa9fd8In a joint statement, members of the Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council, CISA Assistant Director, the National Secretaries of State, and others called the 2020 election the "most secure in American history"
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/ ...[text shortened]... sBarr Says No Election Fraud Has Been Found By Federal Authorities
Give it a rest.
So, maybe some brave lib will muster up courage, from Somewhere, and answer the question? Should a person unknown to the polling officers be allowed to vote? Maybe I should re-phrase for Vivify? Whew.
@averagejoe1 saidThis has been answered a thousand times.
Should a person unknown to the polling officers be allowed to vote?
How many times do conservatives need a primer on the history of voter suppression and ID laws? How many times should it be pointed out that the history of voter ID laws were specifically to stop minorities?
I'm not going there again.
@vivify saidof course you're not...because it is a lie.
This has been answered a thousand times.
How many times do conservatives need a primer on the history of voter suppression and ID laws? How many times should it be pointed out that the history of voter ID laws were specifically to stop minorities?
I'm not going there again.
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The post that was quoted here has been removedFull of holes, Duchess-who-has-observed-the-process-in person.
1> A 'person' arrives with a ballot he 'says' he received in the mail. He may be my communist brother, with MY ballot. Stay with me, here, Duchess. So, ditch that ridiculous statement.
2: An election official checks to see that 'a person' with that name and address is listed on the register. Uhhh, Duhh, he finds that name on he register, since it was sent out under that name. Jesus, are you for real?
Editor;'s Note: Note at this moment that the election official has no idea who is standing in front of him. NO ID!!!! Jesus. Are you for real, Duchess? An observer, were you?
3: That unknown person, maybe a guy who took it out of my mailbox, is allowed to vote by the official. Duchess????
4. Now, as you veer way off the subject, you say a person may just show up to vote without a ballot and 'CLAIMS" something. To hell with what he claims, Duchess. truly,,,,are you putting me on?
5. Official attempts to verify the claim. Duchess???? What? Remember, he ( the claimant'😉 is not required to have ID. A tough task for the official to 'verify the claim'. Jesus.
6. All that is left after a provisional ballot is for the officials to determine that the voter was ineligible. Uhh, most knowledgeable Guru Duchess, how they gonna do that? How do they know if the guy is eligible or not.? He has not had to SHOW ID.
I am astounded as to how your posts have gone downhill. I have bested you in the last 3 threads. Not trying to draw attention to myself, I am just trying to get you back on track. You can do this, You would get more cred if you stop with the incessant links. Nobody cares.
@averagejoe1 saidYou couldn't best Daffy Duck.
Full of holes, Duchess-who-has-observed-the-process-in person.
1> A 'person' arrives with a ballot he 'says' he received in the mail. He may be my communist brother, with MY ballot. Stay with me, here, Duchess. So, ditch that ridiculous statement.
2: An election official checks to see that 'a person' with that name and address is listed on the register. Uhhh, ...[text shortened]... ck. You can do this, You would get more cred if you stop with the incessant links. Nobody cares.
Your scenarios are laughable.
@averagejoe1 saidIn the Netherlands:
Everyone. is it acceptable to allow someone to walk up to a voting table and vote, without showing an ID.....Without showing who they are? Keeping in mind, that ID must be shown for such things as buying whiskey, get medical care, fill a prescription, enter govt buildings or NYC office buildings. get on an airplane???
Yes. You have to show an ID when you go to vote and your voter’s pass.
And voting by mail works differently.
Everyone is sent their voter’s pass and voting sheet. They can’t be sent until date X.
You have your voter’s pass and your voting sheet. You cross who you want to vote for on your voters sheet. Place this in the return envelope. Sign your voter’s pass and put it in a seperate (smaller) envelope. This you place in the envelope with your voter’s sheet and post it.
When the vote comes in, one person opens the envelope and hands the smaller envelope to a second person. He scans the voter pass (meaning it can’t be used a second time) and the other person adds the voting sheet to the votes (in with the rest to be counted at a later moment).
Basically, the voting card is linked to your taxnumber (national insurance number or whatever it can be called). And that number is linked to an address.
Hence, with the postal vote you don’t need to check ID.
Now say you didn’t receive your voting card. You contact the council. They block your previous voting card and you are sent a new one.
Then on day X, if someone has sent the vote (because it was delivered wrongly), the vote won’t be counted. Unless no one phoned to block the previous card.
Is it 100% full proof? Nothing is.
Is there voter fraud? Yes. But it’s on such a minute scale it’s deemed acceptable (for an election result).
Think of a partner who’s very controlling and doesn’t want his wife to vote. So he forces her to sign (or signs for her) the “I’ll let him cast my vote for me” option.
That is the level of fraud we’re talking about.
@averagejoe1 saidSurely you have a ballot and a voter pass?
Full of holes, Duchess-who-has-observed-the-process-in person.
1> A 'person' arrives with a ballot he 'says' he received in the mail. He may be my communist brother, with MY ballot. Stay with me, here, Duchess. So, ditch that ridiculous statement.
2: An election official checks to see that 'a person' with that name and address is listed on the register. Uhhh, ...[text shortened]... ck. You can do this, You would get more cred if you stop with the incessant links. Nobody cares.
The pass gets scanned. No red flags, you can cast the vote.