@Rajk999 saidFunny how you treat this as a fact. Where is the evidence of the officer saying that?
That comment for sure will land him in some trouble with the jury. Also even in the split second he had, he could have shot the vehicle engine, radiator, front tyre, for eg, so that she wont get far. That shot through the windscreen is going to make it look deliberate.
These queers had been obstructing these officers as a paid job. They had received training on how to do this.
They were taught how to push things right up to the breaking point.
In a tense situation the driver was ordered by her partner on the ground to accelerate the vehicle (“drive baby drive&rdquo😉…(proven with video).
The driver acted without any thought of consequences.
The driver was backing away from the officers before this command. Then suddenly changed directions toward the officer she hit.
Main question…how is the dog?
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@no1marauder saidShe created the incident from start to finish and the consequences are on her.
I haven't seen any video, including Ross', showing that. For the sake of argument, I'm willing to concede that there might have been some incidental contact.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidWell obviously ... if it is a fact then ..
Funny how you treat this as a fact. Where is the evidence of the officer saying that?
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidOn his own cell phone video. https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=good+turned+steering+wheel+on+ross%27+video&mid=679A6E88898BD7022DD0679A6E88898BD7022DD0&mmscn=stvo&FORM=VIRE
Funny how you treat this as a fact. Where is the evidence of the officer saying that?
These queers had been obstructing these officers as a paid job. They had received training on how to do this.
They were taught how to push things right up to the breaking point.
In a tense situation the driver was ordered by her partner on the ground to accelerate the vehicle ...[text shortened]... mmand. Then suddenly changed directions toward the officer she hit.
Main question…how is the dog?
At about :44.
Nope, she was turning when he opened fire. https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-TRUMP/MINNESOTA-RECONSTRUCT/egvbbeqeevq/
@no1marauder saidShe was escaping a lawful order to get out of the car on orders from her partner.
On his own cell phone video. https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=good+turned+steering+wheel+on+ross%27+video&mid=679A6E88898BD7022DD0679A6E88898BD7022DD0&mmscn=stvo&FORM=VIRE
At about :44.
Nope, she was turning when he opened fire. https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-TRUMP/MINNESOTA-RECONSTRUCT/egvbbeqeevq/
Of course the wheels were being turned to stay in the roadway, not to miss the officer. Just split seconds before the car was going the opposite direction when she suddenly changed direction when her partner ordered her to (drive baby drive) while attempting to jump in the car her/him self.
No one wants to consider WHY we’re they there to start with.
Protecting illegals with serious criminal charges from being arrested is what.
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidIt's retarded....
No one wants to consider WHY we’re they there to start with.
Protecting illegals with serious criminal charges from being arrested is what.
Isn't it fascinating watching people who have no idea that they're being brainwashed by their own political party into putting themselves in dangerous situations so that when they get killed for their reckless actions, their puppet master's plan can begin as the media spins a narrative around their deaths to push their agenda...its like these people are willingly walking up to the sacrificial stone, laying down, and plunging the knife into their own hearts...its really amazing to see
@Mott-The-Hoople saidThe fact she was initially going in reverse seems to indicate she was trying to avoid the agent in front not "run him over".
She was escaping a lawful order to get out of the car on orders from her partner.
Of course the wheels were being turned to stay in the roadway, not to miss the officer. Just split seconds before the car was going the opposite direction when she suddenly changed direction when her partner ordered her to (drive baby drive) while attempting to jump in the car her/him ...[text shortened]... there to start with.
Protecting illegals with serious criminal charges from being arrested is what.
At least one eyewitness says another ICE agent told her to move the vehicle. And what made the other order to "get out of the f***ing car" legal? They never said she was under arrest or gave any legal reason to detain her.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidThe irony here is rich. It is you and Muppets like Mott spinning a counterfactual narrative to justify the murder of a civilian. That requires a lot of concentration on legally irrelevant victim blaming.
It's retarded....
Isn't it fascinating watching people who have no idea that they're being brainwashed by their own political party into putting themselves in dangerous situations so that when they get killed for their reckless actions, their puppet master's plan can begin as the media spins a narrative around their deaths to push their agenda...its like these people ...[text shortened]... ificial stone, laying down, and plunging the knife into their own hearts...its really amazing to see
@no1marauder said“At least one eyewitness says”
The fact she was initially going in reverse seems to indicate she was trying to avoid the agent in front not "run him over".
At least one eyewitness says another ICE agent told her to move the vehicle. And what made the other order to "get out of the f***ing car" legal? They never said she was under arrest or gave any legal reason to detain her.
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AI Overview
Yes, a police officer can legally order you and any passengers out of a vehicle during a lawful traffic stop, based on U.S. Supreme Court rulings like Pennsylvania v. Mimms, primarily for officer safety to better control the situation, and you are generally required to comply with this order. Officers don't need a specific reason or probable cause to ask you to step out; it's considered a minimal intrusion for officer protection, even for a simple violation like a broken taillight.
Why Officers Can Do This
Officer Safety: The Supreme Court has determined that the danger police officers face during traffic stops (assaults, accidental injuries) outweighs the minor inconvenience of having occupants exit the car.
Control of the Situation: Getting drivers and passengers out allows officers to better manage the stop and reduce risks, ensuring they have "unquestioned command of the situation".
What to Do If Ordered Out
Comply: You must generally comply with the order to get out.
Stay Calm: Remain calm and avoid confrontation.
Ask (Politely): You can politely ask if you're being ordered out, but you are still expected to step out.
Know Your Rights (Beyond the Stop): While you must comply with getting out, you still have rights, like the right to remain silent and the right to not consent to searches without probable cause.
In essence, if you're lawfully pulled over, expect the officer to have the authority to ask you to exit the vehicle for their safety.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidThis wasn't a "lawful traffic stop"; ICE agents don't enforce traffic laws in the States.
“At least one eyewitness says”
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AI Overview
Yes, a police officer can legally order you and any passengers out of a vehicle during a lawful traffic stop, based on U.S. Supreme Court rulings like Pennsylvania v. Mimms, primarily for officer safety to better control the situation, and you are generally required to comply with this order. Officers don't need ...[text shortened]... lled over, expect the officer to have the authority to ask you to exit the vehicle for their safety.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidhttps://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-TRUMP/MINNESOTA-RECONSTRUCT/egvbbeqeevq/
Funny how you treat this as a fact. Where is the evidence of the officer saying that?
These queers had been obstructing these officers as a paid job. They had received training on how to do this.
They were taught how to push things right up to the breaking point.
In a tense situation the driver was ordered by her partner on the ground to accelerate the vehicle ...[text shortened]... mmand. Then suddenly changed directions toward the officer she hit.
Main question…how is the dog?
Check out Video 3 the two photos labelled :15.
Ross is clearly on the side of the car and appears to have his hand on top of the car to shoot Good at a closer distance. This hardly comports with the claim he reasonably feared death or great physical harm when he fired even the first shot.
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@no1marauder saidshe wasnt being stopped for breaking a traffic law...LMFAO
This wasn't a "lawful traffic stop"; ICE agents don't enforce traffic laws in the States.
and yes, ICE can perform traffic stops...you are either ignorant or being untruthful
"ICE agents do not have the authority to conduct traffic stops solely for routine vehicle violations; they must have reasonable suspicion or probable cause related to immigration status or criminal activity.
Legal Authority of ICE Agents
Limited Statutory Power: ICE agents do not have the same authority as local police to make traffic stops for routine violations like speeding or running a red light. Their authority is limited to enforcing immigration laws and requires specific grounds, such as reasonable suspicion of immigration violations or probable cause of a crime. "
@no1marauder said?si=ZSUiD-n1r_zegylo
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-TRUMP/MINNESOTA-RECONSTRUCT/egvbbeqeevq/
Check out Video 3 the two photos labelled :15.
Ross is clearly on the side of the car and appears to have his hand on top of the car to shoot Good at a closer distance. This hardly comports with the claim he reasonably feared death or great physical harm when he fired even the first shot.
She chambered the round in her gun when she put the car in drive, she pulled the trigger when she hit the accelerator to go baby go.
This interviewer is a true clown but we’re used to that.
@no1marauder saidWhite Americans may be having their own George Floyd moment....
It's legally irrelevant, but the victim was a US citizen.