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If we open a quarrel between past and present,,the future will be lost

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Something to ponder , with all the stuff that is going on. An example, is tearing down the statues signifying the past. I am sure there are others. Go for it.

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@averagejoe1 said
Something to ponder , with all the stuff that is going on. An example, is tearing down the statues signifying the past. I am sure there are others. Go for it.
"A nation losing its history is like an individual losing his memory"

I don't recall who said this, but it's a good analogy.
If you can imagine the problems someone with memory loss might have, then it's not hard to imagine what could happen to a nation if it 'forgets' its past

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@averagejoe1 said
Something to ponder , with all the stuff that is going on. An example, is tearing down the statues signifying the past. I am sure there are others. Go for it.
A statute doesn't "signify the past".

Should Germany have left up all statutes of Hitler? Iraq of Saddam?

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@lemon-lime said
"A nation losing its history is like an individual losing his memory"

I don't recall who said this, but it's a good analogy.
If you can imagine the problems someone with memory loss might have, then it's not hard to imagine what could happen to a nation if it 'forgets' its past
If the posters here are representative of right wing Americans, they don't know enough of this country's past to forget it.

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@lemon-lime said
"A nation losing its history is like an individual losing his memory"
Luckily nobody is burning books.

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@lemon-lime said
"A nation losing its history is like an individual losing his memory"

I don't recall who said this, but it's a good analogy.
If you can imagine the problems someone with memory loss might have, then it's not hard to imagine what could happen to a nation if it 'forgets' its past
It’s a good saying but not a good analogy for the topic.

Statues celebrate a particular person in history, what they stood for and what they achieved. Taking down a statue isn’t losing history it’s choosing to not celebrate a part of it.

As No1Maruader said, would you (if you were German) keep a statue of Hitler in place just because he is part of history?

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@divegeester said
It’s a good saying but not a good analogy for the topic.

Statues celebrate a particular person in history, what they stood for and what they achieved. Taking down a statue isn’t losing history it’s choosing to not celebrate a part of it.

As No1Maruader said, would you (if you were German) keep a statue of Hitler in place just because he is part of history?
I probably would.
But contextualized. Add a statue of raped and dead bodies beside it or something.

I find it very difficult to find a painting or a statue offensice, no matter what the subject matter.

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Agreed.
People are too sensitive these days.

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@chesstachio said
Agreed.
People are too sensitive these days.
Probably because others are too dull to comprehend they’re boarish.

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@no1marauder said
A statute doesn't "signify the past".

Should Germany have left up all statutes of Hitler? Iraq of Saddam?
I think Churchill said this. You are correct, we should tear down statues of despots, murderers et al.

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If memory serves me, the Russians have taken down a statue of Stalin

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@divegeester said
It’s a good saying but not a good analogy for the topic.

Statues celebrate a particular person in history, what they stood for and what they achieved. Taking down a statue isn’t losing history it’s choosing to not celebrate a part of it.

As No1Maruader said, would you (if you were German) keep a statue of Hitler in place just because he is part of history?
Read the OP again. Tearing down statues is only one example of attempts to erase the past.

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@no1marauder said
A statute doesn't "signify the past".

Should Germany have left up all statutes of Hitler? Iraq of Saddam?
A statute doesn't "signify the past".
It can if it was a 'statute' enacted in the past.

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@lemon-lime said
A statute doesn't "signify the past".
It can if it was a 'statute' enacted in the past.
OUCH. Dumb typo on my part.

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@AverageJoe1
Presumably you are talking about removing statues and names from confederate state individuals.
It's not a matter of 'signifying' the past, in those cases it is GLORIFYING the past which just keeps racism smoldering.

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