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@metal-brain saidPretty nonsensical even for you son, there is no issue at all with Mail in voting but giving your vote or $500 to a known thief would be really stupid, zero chance you’ll get either back
....put $500 in an envelope and mail it to yourself.
@ponderable saidThe Stasi used to, you know. One couldn't even send bars of soap to friends or family on other side and be sure they would arrive.
I did send banknotes in the past without incident.
If you know of any postal worker opening letters or tempering with them notify the relevant authority imidiately.
@metal-brain saidHere are the stats for the state of Oregon:
....put $500 in an envelope and mail it to yourself.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?state=OR
All of 6 cases in 2019. Not even enough to tip an election for country dog catcher.
Do your own homework for the other 49.
@moonbus saidI do, my mother in law always put in two packages of coffee to increase the chance that one arrives...
The Stasi used to, you know. One couldn't even send bars of soap to friends or family on other side and be sure they would arrive.
@kevcvs57 saidYou are a thief? I said mail it to yourself silly. Do you have split personality disorder and you cannot trust your thieving alter ego?
Pretty nonsensical even for you son, there is no issue at all with Mail in voting but giving your vote or $500 to a known thief would be really stupid, zero chance you’ll get either back
Most people do not mail cash yet the same people will trust their vote to arrive in the mail. It is ironic.
@moonbus said1465 proven instances of voter fraud and 1264 convictions.
Here are the stats for the state of Oregon:
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?state=OR
All of 6 cases in 2019. Not even enough to tip an election for country dog catcher.
Do your own homework for the other 49.
And that is only what was caught. Nobody knows how much voter fraud was not caught.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
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Keep up the good work for your boss Putin who wants Trump to be POTUS again since he was so easy to fool, great work COMRADE.
Mail in voting was around even in the Civil War era with near zero fraud, a handful of cases and that continues to this day so all you are doing is doing Putin's work and we all know that.
You really think a couple thousand fraud cases will effect the elections even if true which is just another one of your fantasy BS buddies putting out more BS but even if totally true, tell me how many elections were flipped because of it COMRADE?
@metal-brain saidShut up you illiterate moron
You are a thief? I said mail it to yourself silly. Do you have split personality disorder and you cannot trust your thieving alter ego?
Most people do not mail cash yet the same people will trust their vote to arrive in the mail. It is ironic.
@metal-brain saidWow 1495 proven instances out of circa 150,000,000 votes cast, I demand a recount!
1465 proven instances of voter fraud and 1264 convictions.
And that is only what was caught. Nobody knows how much voter fraud was not caught.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
Non detected fraud is ipso facto not fraud, by your logic the dems could challenge the 2016 result and definitely the 2024 one if Trump wins
Your such a freaking dummy, you cannot even lie well on a screen
@metal-brain saidThat database had a NY case from 1983 and a California case from 1993 and those were just the two States I checked.
1465 proven instances of voter fraud and 1264 convictions.
And that is only what was caught. Nobody knows how much voter fraud was not caught.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
That's a miniscule amount of cases considering the hundreds of millions or more votes cast in that time frame. And how many were mail in ballots anyway?
Right wing efforts to make voting harder should be rejected; hopefully some day we'll be doing it online.
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@metal-brain saidNot all of which were mail-in ballots. You're moving the goals posts. It's what you always do when confronted with hard facts which refute your ludicrous claims.
1465 proven instances of voter fraud and 1264 convictions.
And that is only what was caught. Nobody knows how much voter fraud was not caught.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
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@moonbus saidHere's a more interesting goalpost: how many people have had their vote stolen by Republican sabotage of the franchise in poorer areas? Thousands of individual cases in mail-in voting over years, thousands of voting stations made inaccessible to anyone with five children, two full-time jobs, and no car. Which is the bigger goal?
Not all of which were mail-in ballots. You're moving the goals posts. It's what you always do when confronted with hard facts which refute your ludicrous claims.