@metal-brain saidNo it’s not you dummy you take an individual from one litter with that characteristic and breed it with a an individual from an entirely different litter but with that characteristic to heighten the chances of the pups from their litter having that phenotype
Why do Dalmatians have the same white coat with black spots? In order to fix that characteristic into the gene pool inbreeding is required. I don't make the genetic rules, I just report them. Bloodhounds are a better example I think. Their smelling ability had to be dependent on inbreeding. No doubt in my mind.
The only people inbreeding dogs are illegal puppy farms who want a quick turnover and no sire fees to pay another breeder. That is where your congenitally damaged dogs come from and why if you want a pedigree you go through the kennel club pertaining to that breed.
I prefer crosses and mongrels myself that tend to be healthier and smarter but if you want / require a particular working dog like a gun dog or a sheep dog you need to go for the breeds that have been SELECTIVELY bred for those purposes
@kevcvs57 saidYou are stressing the downside to inbreeding and ignoring the upside to inbreeding.
No it’s not you dummy you take an individual from one litter with that characteristic and breed it with a an individual from an entirely different litter but with that characteristic to heighten the chances of the pups from their litter having that phenotype
The only people inbreeding dogs are illegal puppy farms who want a quick turnover and no sire fees to pay another b ...[text shortened]... dog or a sheep dog you need to go for the breeds that have been SELECTIVELY bred for those purposes
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/study-finds-most-canine-breeds-have-less-genetic-variation-180979176/
You don't know what you are talking about. Inbreeding fixes certain characteristics into the gene pool. By doing so you will have more good sheep dogs per litter than if you out crossed. How many dogs do you want to feed before you get a good sheepdog worker? 100 or 10?
Like it or not inbreeding saves money.
@metal-brain saidWhen you can bang your sister, who needs hookers?
You are stressing the downside to inbreeding and ignoring the upside to inbreeding.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/study-finds-most-canine-breeds-have-less-genetic-variation-180979176/
You don't know what you are talking about. Inbreeding fixes certain characteristics into the gene pool. By doing so you will have more good sheep dogs per litter than if yo ...[text shortened]... to feed before you get a good sheepdog worker? 100 or 10?
Like it or not inbreeding saves money.
@metal-brain saidIdiotic turd
You are stressing the downside to inbreeding and ignoring the upside to inbreeding.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/study-finds-most-canine-breeds-have-less-genetic-variation-180979176/
You don't know what you are talking about. Inbreeding fixes certain characteristics into the gene pool. By doing so you will have more good sheep dogs per litter than if yo ...[text shortened]... to feed before you get a good sheepdog worker? 100 or 10?
Like it or not inbreeding saves money.
@athousandyoung saidThe Spanish Hapsburgs inbred themselves into incompetence and eventually out of existence. Carlos II's maladies that caused him to die without heir in 1700 and led to the end of the Hapsburgs in Spain was almost certain due to inbreeding.
Inbreeding prevents dilution of inheritances so it leads to success in that sense which is why the Spanish Hapsburgs did it
@sh76 saidYes, when it continues for multiple generations it can be bad. It also depends on the extent of inbreeding. Apparently the Darwin-Wedgwood-Galton family tree was too much. Line breeding is a less extreme inbreeding and it common with selective breeding animals. The Rothschild family was line breeding and not as uncommon as people think.
The Spanish Hapsburgs inbred themselves into incompetence and eventually out of existence. Carlos II's maladies that caused him to die without heir in 1700 and led to the end of the Hapsburgs in Spain was almost certain due to inbreeding.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File😀arwin-Wedgwood-Galton_family_tree.png
Du Pont patriarch Pierre DuPont openly encouraged inbreeding.
http://eskify.com/the-most-inbred-family-in-america/
Inbreeding can be rendered with out crossing though. It is not as if the gene pool is permanently polluted forever with flaws from inbreeding. Don't forget Einstein married his first cousin Elsa.
@metal-brain saidThey didn't have children together fortunately.
Yes, when it continues for multiple generations it can be bad. It also depends on the extent of inbreeding. Apparently the Darwin-Wedgwood-Galton family tree was too much. Line breeding is a less extreme inbreeding and it common with selective breeding animals. The Rothschild family was line breeding and not as uncommon as people think.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w ...[text shortened]... ly polluted forever with flaws from inbreeding. Don't forget Einstein married his first cousin Elsa.