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@mott-the-hoople saidYou yourself just pointed out that the article is from 2019. Primary voting for president didn't start until 2020.
clearly you do not understand canceling at the start vs canceling when the outcome is already decided
Christ, you're retarded.
@sh76 saidFor what it's worth (perhaps not much) the Republican candidate wound up losing in the general in the "not much different" in turnout years and winning in the "outlier" high turnout year.
In terrible weather in what's perceived to be a non-competitive race, it's hardly surprising that turnout is low. Anyway, the turnout wasn't much different than 2008 and 2012. 2016 was the outlier.
Personally, unless Trump dies or becomes incapacitated, I don't see a path to the nomination for anyone else.
@no1marauder saidWell they won’t go to trump and given DeSantis is framing himself as trump junior hopefully they’ll go to Haley
Christie was doing much better than Ramaswamy according to the polls from New Hampshire and his votes seem more likely to go to her or DeSantis. https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/republican-primary/2024/new-hampshire
@sh76 saidI am curious. If you were Chris Christie would you have dropped out of the race right before the Iowa vote unless there was a quid pro quo?
DeSantis stays in because he placed second and Haley stays in because she's relying on NH. I think one of them remains in until Super Tuesday, but it becomes all but official on that day.
Remember when Pete Buttijet ( I hate looking up his name to spell it correctly) dropped out of the primary right before Super Tuesday along with other candidates to help Biden and he was rewarded with a Biden administration job?
https://www.transportation.gov/meet-secretary/secretary-pete-buttigieg
I don't know what kind of quid pro quo it is. It could be a deposit in an offshore bank account for all I know, but am I not reasonable to suspect a bribe of some sort is behind him dropping out? And what about his donors? If you were a donor to his campaign wouldn't you be angry?
Be honest. Isn't it suspect?
@metal-brain saidIf I were Chris Christie, I wouldn't have entered the race in the first place (and I'd strongly consider Ozempic).
I am curious. If you were Chris Christie would you have dropped out of the race right before the Iowa vote unless there was a quid pro quo?
Remember when Pete Buttijet ( I hate looking up his name to spell it correctly) dropped out of the primary right before Super Tuesday along with other candidates to help Biden and he was rewarded with a Biden administration job?
...[text shortened]... s donors? If you were a donor to his campaign wouldn't you be angry?
Be honest. Isn't it suspect?
He had no chance in Iowa. Why be humiliated? Or maybe he thinks Trump will give him a job. I don't know. But I don't consider it suspicious at all.
@sh76 saidTrump is far more likely to be needing a job himself, say in the prison laundry, then to be in any position to dispense political favors.
If I were Chris Christie, I wouldn't have entered the race in the first place (and I'd strongly consider Ozempic).
He had no chance in Iowa. Why be humiliated? Or maybe he thinks Trump will give him a job. I don't know. But I don't consider it suspicious at all.
@kevcvs57 saidProgressives should be rooting for Trump to win the Republican nomination; he has little chance of winning in the general.
Well they won’t go to trump and given DeSantis is framing himself as trump junior hopefully they’ll go to Haley
Haley would be a more formidable opponent; she lacks the levels of disapproval both Trump and Biden possess.
@no1marauder saidMaybe Christie is setting himself up to also have a prison laundry job lined up, just in case.
Trump is far more likely to be needing a job himself, say in the prison laundry, then to be in any position to dispense political favors.
@no1marauder saidWhy bother with all this.. If Trump is not thrown in prison by Sonhouse, he will be nominee, and in my opinion ( i wish all of you would preface comments with 'in my opnion', so that we will know it is not fact..............)...in my opinion, Trump will be president, as Biden falls into a gutter in front of the ice cream parlor. Your man, Biden. Does he know about the rapes, Gaza, all that? Has he considered, as did Truman, to bomb hell out of all of that mess? Does he know about the Border? China? Ukraine? His son? Does he know anything? Where the podium is? how to put on his jacket? What his fave ice cream is? How to stop and answer more than one question before turning his f'n back?. Asking for millions of friends.
Pundit time! Trump will:
A) Get a solid majority of votes;
B) Finish first with a plurality but not a majority;
C) Lose to Haley or DeSantis in a shocking upset.
My back of the envelope percentage probabilities for the above are:
A) 40%
B) 55%
C) 5%
And it's almost 100% that if B or C occur, Trump will complain that corrupt Iowa Republican leaders cheated him out of his actual landslide victory.
@averagejoe1 saidIF the Republicans nominate Trump again and IF, in violation of the 14th Amendment he is allowed on the ballot, I rate it as a 90% likelihood he'll lose again, in all probability by a wider margin.
Why bother with all this.. If Trump is not thrown in prison by Sonhouse, he will be nominee, and in my opinion ( i wish all of you would preface comments with 'in my opnion', so that we will know it is not fact..............)...in my opinion, Trump will be president, as Biden falls into a gutter in front of the ice cream parlor. Your man, Biden. Does he know about the ra ...[text shortened]... stop and answer more than one question before turning his f'n back?. Asking for millions of friends.
This result will be the same regardless of whether he faces Biden or a replacement. He is, as Nikki Haley said, "“the most disliked politician in all of America.” https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4169315-haley-trump-criticism-most-disliked-politician/
@metal-brain saidI'm sure it's a freedom thing, but I wonder how your elections would go if the vote was compulsory. In Australia you get fined for not voting. It does mean though that we avoid extremes in voter sentiment.
A poor turnout is not surprising since the polls indicate Biden and Trump would win big anyway.
@no1marauder saidUnfit for the presidency but they'll still vote for him.
Consider this; among a group that were 89% self-described conservatives - 32% said Trump would be unfit for the Presidency if he was convicted of a crime. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/most-iowa-republican-caucus-goers-say-trump-fit-to-be-president-if-convicted/ar-AA1n1ZKp