12 Dec 20
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/12/middleeast/iran-execution-journalist-rouhollah-zam-intl/index.html
Iran executes dissident journalist Rouhollah Zam
Dissident Iranian journalist Rouhollah Zam was hanged in Iran on Saturday morning, according to state television IRIB.
Zam was found guilty of "corruption on earth," a charge that does not specify a crime but is sometimes used by the Iranian government for alleged attempts to overthrow it.
Zam ran the online opposition news site Amad News, which was accused by Tehran of inciting violence during deadly protests in 2017 and 2018, the semi-official Tasnim news agency reported in 2019.
He was found guilty and sentenced to death in June.
Iran had accused Zam of working with US, French and Israeli intelligence that provided him with "overt and covert" protection, according to Iran's semi-official Fars news agency.
Reporters Without Borders says Iran has been one of the world's most repressive countries for journalists for 40 years. The group says at least 860 journalists and citizen-journalists have been imprisoned or executed in Iran since 1979
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@vivify said“Formerly charged him” ... with what?
This brings up a question:
If Saudi Arabia had formally charged Khashoggi before killing him, would the world have been at all outraged, or would everyone simply have shook their heads and moved on like they will with this story?
13 Dec 20
@cheesemaster saidmaybe, and it might even be a popular war, but all I can say is, JUST SAY NO TO WAR
Old Joe will start a war.
I'm calling it now.
Look at what we do to people like Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, Mordechai Vanunu. Would it be right for China to start a war with us?
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@divegeester saidYou misunderstand: Iran's charges are BS, and any charges by Saudi Arabia against Khashoggi would've been just as unfounded.
“Formerly charged him” ... with what?
I think the reaction to Zam's killing will not receive the shock and revulsion like that of Khashoggi's death, because the murder was less brutal (hanging rather than decapitation) and had at least a semblance of legality.
If Saudi Arabia chose to formally charge Khashoggi, even though like Zam, it would've been pure BS, it's quite possible Saudi Arabia wouldn't have received the global condemnation it did.
Basically, ignoring the more brutal method killing from SA, Iran is just as wrong, but won't be perceived as such due killing Zam in a seemingly more "legal" manner.
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@vivify saidAgain... “formally charge him” with what?
You misunderstand: Iran's charges are BS, and any charges by Saudi Arabia against Khashoggi would've been just as unfounded.
I think the reaction to Zam's killing will not receive the shock and revulsion like that of Khashoggi's death, because the murder was less brutal (hanging rather than decapitation) and had at least a semblance of legality.
If Saudi Arabia chose ...[text shortened]... is just as wrong, but won't be perceived as such due killing Zam in a seemingly more "legal" manner.
He was an innocent man and simply an critic of the Saudi Royal family, and for this he was abducted and brutally murdered by dismemberment. With a power tool I think it was.
Do you not think this is deserving of outrage?
13 Dec 20
@divegeester
Com'on dive, they make up laws you never heard of.
You know that Iranian journalist that Iran just executed...?
Here's the charge Iran had against him: "corruption on Earth,"
Ever hear of that one, dive?
13 Dec 20
@divegeester saidoff course this deserves outrage; that's my point. I don''t think this will get outrage, at least nowhere near how it was with Khashoggi.
Again... “formally charge him” with what?
He was an innocent man and simply an critic of the Saudi Royal family, and for this he was abducted and brutally murdered by dismemberment. With a power tool I think it was.
Do you not think this is deserving of outrage?
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@divegeester saidThe reason they did it they way they did was not based on legality or lack of it. It was more to do with opportunity. Kashogi was never going back to Saudi where he could be charged and tried so they set him up in what he thought was a safe country for opponents of the Saudi regime.
Again... “formally charge him” with what?
He was an innocent man and simply an critic of the Saudi Royal family, and for this he was abducted and brutally murdered by dismemberment. With a power tool I think it was.
Do you not think this is deserving of outrage?
I’m sure if they could have got him to go home they could’ve found some BS charge like treason or bearing false witness against the state. They went the other way though.