@Metal-Brain saidAll too easy to provide:
" They have been conducting a war against Europe, the USA, and the rest of the world since their criminal theocratic govt took over in 1979"
That is not true. Cite a single example.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/06/19/iranian-and-iranian-backed-attacks-against-americans-1979-present/
@Cliff-Mashburn saidCliff, they know full well. They are trolling, which is actually all one can do from a losing position. Pretty rich when they say Iran has no Uraniaum program when it is proven that they do. I am not going to bother proving to them.
All too easy to provide:
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/06/19/iranian-and-iranian-backed-attacks-against-americans-1979-present/
Look at the Loser, Governor Hochel. She told the rich people last week to just go the hell out of New York, we don't want your kind anyway. Now she is begging them to come back, but here is the clincher from a business man's point of view... IF I had seen people leave my business for cause, but I needed them still, I would somehow sweeten the pot, offer incentives, to convince them to come back, more money, corner office, whatever. This woman is begging them to come back yesterday, with no incentive whatsoever.
She is a fool and could not run a shoe shop. She is asking them to come back and watch their lives go to hell. Our little Friend says all that time that we do not need business people (the dam trump) running government. This proves that we do.
If our libs would watch FOX, they could be entertained by a montage this moring showing Horchel actually bradcasting last week that the can JUST LEAVE!!! 😠Then yesterday's clip begging them to come back.
Another small laugh for us....They chide Trump for 'begging' help of other countries, but Hochel begging is cool.
Must we win every issue???? Getes boring.
MB and I decided yesterday to have a new debate I am awaiting his issue. Hell I hope he wins, it does get boring. Sometimes a simple analogy, not even mentioning the Topic! can win a debate with those turkeys.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidNot much there except Iran has helped groups resisting US invasions of other Middle East countries and ongoing Israeli occupation and oppression.
All too easy to provide:
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/06/19/iranian-and-iranian-backed-attacks-against-americans-1979-present/
Who's been at war with whom?
@mike69 saidAnd you are just FINE with Trump attacking journalists threatening to EXECUTE those TRAITORS, remove network licenses if they don't say what TRUMP wants us to here, Yep, the war is almost over, we decimated EVERYTHING there.
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Well just to be sure we are sending 5000 troops there.
This is without a doubt the most worthless war even contemplated so now Trump has at the same time sending off troops who will find out the hard way how it is to send 5000 troops to fight an army of ONE FKING MILLION strong.
Yep, Trump thought about this long and hard, weighing all the pro's and cons and decided his BONES tell him to go to war and his BONES tell him when to quit and go home. So far 13 dead Americans, some 200 injured.
Do you really think Trump gives a rats as how many soldiers die for his ego war?
@sonhouse said?si=eRQ4xWxvhJBlDDxM
And you are just FINE with Trump attacking journalists threatening to EXECUTE those TRAITORS, remove network licenses if they don't say what TRUMP wants us to here, Yep, the war is almost over, we decimated EVERYTHING there.
Well just to be sure we are sending 5000 troops there.
This is without a doubt the most worthless war even contemplated so now Trump has at the same ...[text shortened]... some 200 injured.
Do you really think Trump gives a rats as how many soldiers die for his ego war?
@mike69 saidYou are seriously deluded. I guess the Kool Aid must taste GREAT.
https://youtube.com/shorts/GQvaJap1hZU?si=eRQ4xWxvhJBlDDxM
But they did misspell MAGA, it really reads
Make America GRATE again.
How does it feel to have Trumpism as your #1 religion?
@sonhouse saidSonhouse, step away for a couple weeks. Deep breaths, hold it, let it go slowly. Now get a grip, you’re losing it. Seriously.
You are seriously deluded. I guess the Kool Aid must taste GREAT.
But they did misspell MAGA, it really reads
Make America GRATE again.
How does it feel to have Trumpism as your #1 religion?
@mike69 saidYou are fully in with Trump trying to install rules to limit voters, legal voter suppression. You can mewl and puke out crap all you want but Trump does not give up power if he has any option to keep in power he will use it, you didn't notice how little Epstein gets in the news now that Trumps distraction is front and center.
Prove it, or is it just a weak, sheep like, liberal opinion? I won’t mention TDS, it’s getting boring along with it has morphed into something else even larger…
Oh, of course, just pure coincidence.........
@Cliff-Mashburn saidEverybody knows about the hostages Iran took, but that was because the US would not return the Shah to face charges for his brutal regime that tortured people. That was a reaction to terrorism, not an action.
All too easy to provide:
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/06/19/iranian-and-iranian-backed-attacks-against-americans-1979-present/
All the other examples were not Iran. Hezbollah and Hamas are not Iran. You have been indoctrinated with propaganda alleging those are proxies of Iran without ANY evidence. And since Israel funded Hamas you have no more evidence that they are proxies of Iran than you do Israel.
Try again. Hezbollah and Hamas are enemies of Israel, not the USA. But Israel is funded by the USA which makes the US a funder of terrorism since Israel is a terrorist nation.
Hegseth said Iran started the war. Do you believe that lie too? Israel bombed nuclear power plants in Iraq and Syria. Israel is the terrorist nation. If another nation bombed US nuclear power plants would the US not call that nation terrorists?
Trump threatened to nuke North Korea. Iran never threatened to nuke anybody. China threatened to nuke Japan. You really have everything backwards. And don't you think the unprovoked bombing for the purpose of regime change in Iran is terrorism? And it was all based on lies.
https://www.themirror.com/news/world-news/netanyahu-claimed-three-decades-iran-1716047
@Nanomaster saidStop lying. I clearly pointed out that regime change is a political objective. Do you have memory problems or are you in denial that regime change is a political objective? Trump and Israel bombed Iran in the middle of negotiations. That is terrorism.
"TERRORISM - the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective."
Metal Brain:
"I challenge you to prove I used the words terrorism and terrorist incorrectly using the definition you posted."
- You are using the burden of proof incorrectly. If you assert that Trump is a ter ...[text shortened]... climate of fear (among the Iranians, for example).
But I do not assert that this claim is false.
@no1marauder saidWe seem to be confusing them with facts. They don't like that. Do you think they are humble enough to admit they are wrong?
How have they been "conducting a war" against the US?
By supplying Hezbollah when this country invaded Lebanon?
By having the gall to not surrender when this country aided Iraq's invasion of Iran?
By having their civilian airliner get in the way of missiles fired by the US Navy?
By helping militias in Iraq when the US invaded that country?
Do tell and describe how a sneak attack during ongoing negotiations is the act of anything but low life cowards.
@Metal-Brain saidThose groups were all bankrolled by Iran, trained in Iran, given aid , weapons and a safe space to hide in Iran, so nice try.
Everybody knows about the hostages Iran took, but that was because the US would not return the Shah to face charges for his brutal regime that tortured people. That was a reaction to terrorism, not an action.
All the other examples were not Iran. Hezbollah and Hamas are not Iran. You have been indoctrinated with propaganda alleging those are proxies of Iran without AN ...[text shortened]... on lies.
https://www.themirror.com/news/world-news/netanyahu-claimed-three-decades-iran-1716047