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@Cliff-Mashburn saidIf funding terrorists makes you a terrorist then Israel is a terrorist for funding Hamas so that is irrelevant.
Those groups were all bankrolled by Iran, trained in Iran, given aid , weapons and a safe space to hide in Iran, so nice try.
Starting in 1959, under the Eisenhower administration, the U.S. government had the Central Intelligence Agency recruit operatives in Cuba to carry out terrorism and sabotage, kill civilians, and cause economic damage.
From 1979 to 1990, the United States provided financial, logistical and military support to the Contra rebels in Nicaragua, who used terrorist tactics in their war against the Nicaraguan government and carried out more than 1300 terrorist attacks. This support persisted despite widespread knowledge of the human rights violations committed by the Contras.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism
The USA is guilty of everything you alleged Iran is guilty of. Iran did not start this war. Starting wars with the goal of regime change is terrorism. Nice try. And I did not merely try. I succeeded as you well know. It is time for you to end your hypocrisy inspired by one sided propaganda.
@Metal-Brain saidIsrael ...funded Hamas...?
If funding terrorists makes you a terrorist then Israel is a terrorist for funding Hamas so that is irrelevant.
What..the actual F.CU.K are you talking about?
Did you have a stroke? Did it smell like burnt toast in the air when you wrote that?
@Cliff-Mashburn saidNope. You are just in denial of historical fact.
Israel ...funded Hamas...?
What..the actual F.CU.K are you talking about?
Did you have a stroke? Did it smell like burnt toast in the air when you wrote that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
I understand that you think that is too crazy to be true, but the truth is crazy. Like LEHI twice attempting to ally with Nazi Germany. That sounds crazy too, but it is True.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group)
@Metal-Brain saidGet lost. I do not accept your style of arguing.
Stop lying. I clearly pointed out that regime change is a political objective. Do you have memory problems or are you in denial that regime change is a political objective? Trump and Israel bombed Iran in the middle of negotiations. That is terrorism.
@Nanomaster saidI do not accept your lying.
Get lost. I do not accept your style of arguing.
Yitshak Shamir was a known Lehi terrorist and was elected prime minister of Israel. Israel is a terrorist nation. And Trump is a moron. He said the war was over and he keeps threatening to bomb power plants as Iran and Israel bomb each other's nuclear power plants.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/irans-longest-range-missile-strike-fails-diego-garcia-natanz-nuclear-facility-bombed
You are just sore because you lost the debate and you are too stubborn to admit your ignorance of history. The Israeli people elected a known terrorist to be their leader. And Trump supports a known Al Qaeda terrorist in Syria. They had a bounty on his head and lifted it later.
https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/us-lift-10-million-bounty-de-facto-syrian-leaders-head-rcna185076
You were fooled with propaganda by omission. Certain parts of history is being left out by the corporate news media. They do not want to bring up Operation Ajax for example and how the US overthrew a democratically elected leader and replaced him with a brutal dictator. Now Trump wants too install his son into power there. Another puppet dictator.
@Metal-Brain said"I do not accept your lying."
I do not accept your lying.
Yitshak Shamir was a known Lehi terrorist and was elected prime minister of Israel. Israel is a terrorist nation. And Trump is a moron. He said the war was over and he keeps threatening to bomb power plants as Iran and Israel bomb each other's nuclear power plants.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/irans-longest-range-missile-strik ...[text shortened]... th a brutal dictator. Now Trump wants too install his son into power there. Another puppet dictator.
Metal Brain is a provocateur.
@Nanomaster
Israel elected a known terrorist to be their PM.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Yitzhak-Shamir
Israel is the terrorist state, not Iran.
@Metal-Brain saidCurrent Israel is a terrorist state because it commits terrorist acts on the state level, not because it elected some particular person as the PM.
@Nanomaster
Israel elected a known terrorist to be their PM.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Yitzhak-Shamir
Israel is the terrorist state, not Iran.
I am totally incompetent to say whether Iran is a terrorist state or not.
@Nanomaster saidTake your pick of reasons. Regime change is terrorism. Regime change is a political objective. Unprovoked wars are terrorism. Terrorism is not just what others do. That is just the spin doctoring.
Current Israel is a terrorist state because it commits terrorist acts on the state level, not because it elected some particular person as the PM.
I am totally incompetent to say whether Iran is a terrorist state or not.
Trump is a terrorist.
@Nanomaster saidWhat do you mean on the state level? Explain.
Current Israel is a terrorist state because it commits terrorist acts on the state level, not because it elected some particular person as the PM.
I am totally incompetent to say whether Iran is a terrorist state or not.
I lot of this alleged Iranian terrorism is based on the assumption that Hezbollah is Iran. Hezbollah is not Iran. Hezbollah is independent of Iran. Even PBS' Frontline says this.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/remaking-the-middle-east-israel-vs-iran/?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=campaign_17274017&utm_Newsletter=FRONTLINE_Digest/
@Metal-Brain saidI do not have to explain to you anything, as you yourself did not explain what you mean by calling Israel a "terrorist state", based on what person has been elected as Israel's PM.
What do you mean on the state level? Explain.
I lot of this alleged Iranian terrorism is based on the assumption that Hezbollah is Iran. Hezbollah is not Iran. Hezbollah is independent of Iran. Even PBS' Frontline says this.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/remaking-the-middle-east-israel-vs-iran/?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=campaign_17274017&utm_Newsletter=FRONTLINE_Digest/
The others, who have brains, understand what I meant by arguing that Israel is a terrorist state not because of who has been elected as the PM, but because of what actions Israel has committed - on the state level.
@Metal-Brain said"Regime change is terrorism." - Metal Brain
Take your pick of reasons. Regime change is terrorism. Regime change is a political objective. Unprovoked wars are terrorism. Terrorism is not just what others do. That is just the spin doctoring.
Trump is a terrorist.
Just a few messages ago, I suggested using dictionaries or encyclopedias to check the meaning of the term "terrorist". Metal Brain answered that I am lying and that he or she was using the term "terrorist" correctly. Metal Brain challenged me to prove that he or she has used that term incorrectly.
The quotation above is an explicit and direct proof that Metal Brain does not care about the meanings of the terms; he or she has no idea whatsoever what these terms denote, and he or she is an arrogant linguistic terrorist who produces merely noise and disrupts any rational discussion.
@Nanomaster saidThe irony. You are still lying. Regime change is a political objective. I proved regime change meets the definition of terrorism perfectly. Do you think you are playing some sort of Jedi mind trick?
"Regime change is terrorism." - Metal Brain
Just a few messages ago, I suggested using dictionaries or encyclopedias to check the meaning of the term "terrorist". Metal Brain answered that I am lying and that he or she was using the term "terrorist" correctly. Metal Brain challenged me to prove that he or she has used that term incorrectly.
The quotation abov ...[text shortened]... is an arrogant linguistic terrorist who produces merely noise and disrupts any rational discussion.
@Nanomaster saidIsrael elected a known Lehi terrorist to be the 7th prime minister of Israel. A terrorist group that killed British people.
I do not have to explain to you anything, as you yourself did not explain what you mean by calling Israel a "terrorist state", based on what person has been elected as Israel's PM.
The others, who have brains, understand what I meant by arguing that Israel is a terrorist state not because of who has been elected as the PM, but because of what actions Israel has committed - on the state level.
https://israeled.org/yitzhak-shamir-dies/
Explain how that does not make Israel a terrorist nation.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidNo nation has ever nuked another nation with nukes....ever!
You don't believe Iran supports terrorist groups around the world?
You don't believe Iran coverts nuclear weapons and would become a threat to the US in the future if left unchecked?
The current action is though worrying and the repercussions across the Middle East (and wider) is unclear. - It would have been preferable to have Iran abandon its nuclear aspirations through non military means (economic pressures etc).
Why would you believe anything Trump says?
This is the same guy who said the new president of Iran asked him for a cease fire. Here is why we know that was a lie. Iran doesn't have a new President; Masoud Pezeshkian has been in the role since 2024.
Not only is he a liar, he is a really bad liar. A stupid liar who does not even bother to look up Iran's president to know who he is.