Was Trump the most peaceful president the USA has had in living memory? This is an opinion of a work colleague I was talking with yesterday and actually, I think, bizarrely, I agree!
Weird that there could be anything positive about Trumpy, but actually maybe he was the best person to understand Putin and Kim Jong Un. I say this because:
1) he understood about not being seen as weak and the importance of not being embarrassed (how being embarrassed can lead men with absurd power to use it).
2) he was just as crazy as them so they met with a kindred spirit.
3) And he was money minded, peace yields more profit than war, so he wanted peace.
I do hope the USA stays clear of any Trump-like-potentials, but maybe there's sense in having a business man lead a country?
It's good business to realise the full potential of everyone, good business to have everyone in good health, good business to not be making war with others and to keep talks open.
@yo-its-me
Hell no. It is absolutely not a good idea to run a country the same way a company is run. In a company, it is perfectly acceptable for the boss to give his son-in-law's construction firm the contract to re-pave the parking lot. In a country, it is absolutely not acceptable for a president to give his son-in-law's construction firm a contract to build fighter jets and aircraft carriers. In a company, it is perfectly acceptable for the CEO to send his son-in-law on a mission to negotiate the buyout of a majority share of another company's stock. In a country, it is absolutely not acceptable for the POTUS to send his son-in-law on a diplomatic mission to the Middle East to sell out the Palestinians.
@moonbus saidIt's similarly not good business to choose familial connections over most qualified candidates as it is with a country.
@yo-its-me
Hell no. It is absolutely not a good idea to run a country the same way a company is run. In a company, it is perfectly acceptable for the boss to give his son-in-law's construction firm the contract to re-pave the parking lot. In a country, it is absolutely not acceptable for a president to give his son-in-law's construction firm a contract to build fighter jet ...[text shortened]... OTUS to send his son-in-law on a diplomatic mission to the Middle East to sell out the Palestinians.
In a company your aim is profit. Trump was prioritising money and that meant he was keen for trade relationships and peace, which gave him motivation to meet Putin and Kim Jong Un on an equal level rather than to let them know their human rights were poor and the western world are looking down on them.
@yo-its-me saidwhat in the name of joe pesci are you talking about? What peace? he almost started another war with Iran. What strength? What exactly did he do in terms of foreign policy? He got into a tariff war with China, was that good business? Was it in the interest of everyone's good health when he attempted to obliterate Obamacare?
Was Trump the most peaceful president the USA has had in living memory? This is an opinion of a work colleague I was talking with yesterday and actually, I think, bizarrely, I agree!
Weird that there could be anything positive about Trumpy, but actually maybe he was the best person to understand Putin and Kim Jong Un. I say this because:
1) he understood about not being ...[text shortened]... have everyone in good health, good business to not be making war with others and to keep talks open.
I consider having a business man to run a country like a business is an idiotic idea from the start but what the flying fuk makes Trump, someone who filed for bankruptcy how many times now, a good business man?
A business must make profit. A country must care for its citizens.
Btw, be careful what you wish for. If the US was run like a business, it would have sold or rented Alabama or Arkansas or Kentucky or any of the poorest red states to the highest bidder. A business doesn't keep sinking money into worthless divisions forever. All Alabamians let go, told they have to move state and the land be used as a parking space.
@yo-its-me saidThe only person that trump wanted to make money for was trump and ‘the country’ would be a lumpen masse of looosers in his eyes.
It's similarly not good business to choose familial connections over most qualified candidates as it is with a country.
In a company your aim is profit. Trump was prioritising money and that meant he was keen for trade relationships and peace, which gave him motivation to meet Putin and Kim Jong Un on an equal level rather than to let them know their human rights were poor and the western world are looking down on them.
A country should be run like an economically viable cooperative a healthy mix of profit motive and a fair deal for those on the factory floor.
Unfortunately we usually get asset strippers and robber barons
@kevcvs57 saidFirst of all, countries should be run by people who do the bidding of the electorate (not their own); and second of all, by people who understand how the rule of law works (not how best to evade it). These tend to be career politicians, not businessmen. Especially not businessmen who have a history of legal evasion and bankruptcy.
The only person that trump wanted to make money for was trump and ‘the country’ would be a lumpen masse of looosers in his eyes.
A country should be run like an economically viable cooperative a healthy mix of profit motive and a fair deal for those on the factory floor.
Unfortunately we usually get asset strippers and robber barons
Business people are there for one reason - putting money in their pockets. They will drive a business into the ground and then dissolve it if that’s how they can make the most money. They are cutthroat, greedy sociopaths. I don’t want a President that shares the mindset of absolute dictators. That is not a good thing.
@yo-its-me saidDuh. For god sake.
Was Trump the most peaceful president the USA has had in living memory? This is an opinion of a work colleague I was talking with yesterday and actually, I think, bizarrely, I agree!
Weird that there could be anything positive about Trumpy, but actually maybe he was the best person to understand Putin and Kim Jong Un. I say this because:
1) he understood about not being ...[text shortened]... have everyone in good health, good business to not be making war with others and to keep talks open.
@yo-its-me saidThankyou. Do you know these weaklings have no good reason to not want Trump? He Likes sex, et al, like Clinton; bad breath, brags, but is as yet not guilty of anything, so, assuming he is not, for a moment, do you like him up against Xi and Putin, or rather Biden?
It's similarly not good business to choose familial connections over most qualified candidates as it is with a country.
In a company your aim is profit. Trump was prioritising money and that meant he was keen for trade relationships and peace, which gave him motivation to meet Putin and Kim Jong Un on an equal level rather than to let them know their human rights were poor and the western world are looking down on them.
@averagejoe1 saidIt is an enduring malaise that in a country the size of the USA, the only meaningful choice is between Trump and Biden.
do you like him up against Xi and Putin, or rather Biden?
@yo-its-me
Do you really think Putin and Kim actually LIKED Trump? They were using him and played him like a fiddle. Made both countries look much stronger than they really were.
Sucking up to dictators shows ME only one thing, Trump is a wannabe dictator.
I think it will eventually be proven in court he was in actual fact treasonous. Showing classified docs to people around him, testified to that by witnesses and then whole folders with NO docs in them.
Smells REALLY bad, the deeper you dig.
He will richly deserve whatever comes of all this.
I ONLY WANT TO FIND 11780 VOTES may be a 22nd century pejorative....
@zahlanzi saidI'm not saying Trump was a good business man, I'm saying maybe there's something about the approach a business man has that would work well with running a country.
what in the name of joe pesci are you talking about? What peace? he almost started another war with Iran. What strength? What exactly did he do in terms of foreign policy? He got into a tariff war with China, was that good business? Was it in the interest of everyone's good health when he attempted to obliterate Obamacare?
I consider having a business man to run a country ...[text shortened]... orever. All Alabamians let go, told they have to move state and the land be used as a parking space.
In general USA presidents haven't been peacekeepers. Do you think Putin would end his war if he could and save face? I do. And I think a business woman or man could facilitate that better than a politician.
A business must care for its employees.
If I was running a business and the branches Alabama, Arkansas & Kentucky were loosing money then I'd restructure them. People don't want handouts generally, they want handups.
@sonhouse saidBut no wars were started with North Korea or with Russia while Trump was rubbing their egos and that's the goal.
@yo-its-me
Do you really think Putin and Kim actually LIKED Trump? They were using him and played him like a fiddle. Made both countries look much stronger than they really were.
Sucking up to dictators shows ME only one thing, Trump is a wannabe dictator.
I think it will eventually be proven in court he was in actual fact treasonous. Showing classified docs to people a ...[text shortened]... ve whatever comes of all this.
I ONLY WANT TO FIND 11780 VOTES may be a 22nd century pejorative....
Trump was out for himself, yes. Like I said, he wasn't a good leader. I'm saying maybe politicians aren't approaching these crazy heads across the world in a way that keeps the end goal in mind, whereas a business approach perhaps will.
@athousandyoung saidConsider how the communism model is intended to be applied: Consider if that money was reinvested into the 'employees' of the country.
Business people are there for one reason - putting money in their pockets. They will drive a business into the ground and then dissolve it if that’s how they can make the most money. They are cutthroat, greedy sociopaths. I don’t want a President that shares the mindset of absolute dictators. That is not a good thing.
@moonbus saidThe average electorate doesn't know what they want. Take Brexit: the UK had a clear opertunity to directly have their vote count (no first past the post counting of votes), but they were given no information just a campaign from the leave side (a very different approach in other EU states before they voted): the result has been disastrous for the UK.
First of all, countries should be run by people who do the bidding of the electorate (not their own); and second of all, by people who understand how the rule of law works (not how best to evade it).
A business approach would have been to have the board members discussing the potential break before a vote was made.
There are laws in business too that have to be followed.