Originally posted by 7ate9http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatu_Hiva:_Back_to_Nature
A&D counseling is NOT good for me. I know this, and I know to run around those problems continually is only going to put me in confusion, past my limits, and I'll just give up through trying so hard when I get out of their hands and end up back where I started.
Surely there are other ways to approach this situation that would be more suitable than playing e ...[text shortened]... t's a problem with HOW I think?
Tactics, tactics, tactics... but there is NO strategy??????
"On the occasion of their honeymoon, Thor Heyerdahl and his first wife Liv, determined to escape from civilization, and to "return to nature". They nominally had an academic mission, to research the spread of animal species between islands, but in reality they intended to "run away to the South Seas" and never return home. The couple arrived at Fatu Hiva in 1937, in the valley of Omo‘a. Finding that civilization, albeit on a vastly reduced scale, was still present there, they decided to cross over the island's mountainous interior to settle in one of the small, nearly abandoned, valleys on the eastern side of the island. There, they made their thatch-covered stilted home in the valley of Uia."
Originally posted by 7ate9You're right, sorry, for a minute there I stumbled into emphathy. I won't bother you with reality anymore. You'll find that soon enough on your own.
I ain't your brother.
Where did you get that from?
Remember .. you're a victim. It's not your fault, you can't help yourself. It was your parents, or your teachers, or that mean old MR MAN.
Whatever, it has nothing at all to do with you deciding to drink and drive. You had to.
Originally posted by 7ate9How to find .. the right thing ..
can you answer your simple question of what is the right thing?
Try to get into a quiet place, just sit and .. be quiet.
Close your eyes.
Try to empty your thoughts and quiet your mind .. center your energy on a point between your eyes and about an inch or two above.
Just try to center on that point.
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If you still have a conscience, it should kick in.
If not .. practice practice
Listen to what it tells you is "the right thing" and then do it.
It won't be easy, but it will be the right thing .. for you.
If you've lost touch with your inner voice, conscience, soul it can be "reborn" thru meditation and getting yourself to a calm place.
abstinence along with meditation will lead you thru chaos to calm.
You're heart .. soul .. inner voice is your guide.
You deny it at your own peril.
It's OK to be good to yourself .. brother
Originally posted by 7ate9Unless you can cut all the friends or aquaintences you normally get high with nothing will change. Its not just the drugs and alcohol all on its own. If it is I think thats unusual. But I am sure you are in a situation that you could'nt even dream of giving it all up becuase its part of a lifestyle.
I heard some I don't like very much say that, 'drugs and alcohol' is used as an escape.
Maybe giving up some your closer associations, (if they are involved with D&A that is) would be more difficult than actually giving up the intoxicants.
I know for myself going cold turkey on my friends was hard. Giving up ciggarettes and alcohol ( the two major food groups) were much easier by comparison than not seeing certain buddies, which when you really analyse it are not people who would have been your friends had drugs and alcohol not been a part of your mutual friendship.
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Originally posted by 7ate9Read Alan Carr's book ..The Easy way to control Alcohol.
A&D counseling is NOT good for me. I know this, and I know to run around those problems continually is only going to put me in confusion, past my limits, and I'll just give up through trying so hard when I get out of their hands and end up back where I started.
Surely there are other ways to approach this situation that would be more suitable than playing e ...[text shortened]... t's a problem with HOW I think?
Tactics, tactics, tactics... but there is NO strategy??????
It is an alternative to the normal solution.Worth a try at least. good luck.
BTW It has nothing to do with the God squad, or being miserable about giving up.
You might as well give them more chance. You could listen to them carefully, and note things you are not very happy about, anything making you unconfortable or what you disagree with them. Then you could explain to them clearly why you think the councelling is not working. If you listen to them, they should also listen to you in return, shouldn't they? If you found them impossible to communicate, then you could consider changing the counceller or seek advice elsewhere..
I know it is very difficult to break addictions, but I do believe it can be done. It may take a long time, but don't give up. Good luck.