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Is Biden anti union or pro union?

Is Biden anti union or pro union?

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Biden came here to Michigan to pretend to support the union there.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/22/politics/joe-biden-michigan-trip-uaw/index.html

But remember when Biden signed a bill to block U.S. railroad strike?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-bill-block-us-railroad-strike-2022-12-02/

From the link below:

"Speaking to reporters in Philadelphia on Monday, Biden was asked about the looming strike.

"No, I'm not worried about a strike," Biden said. "It's not gonna happen."

UAW President Shawn Fain said he was shocked by Biden's statement.

“He must know something we don’t know. Maybe the companies plan on walking in and giving us our demands on the night before, I don’t know, but he’s on the inside on something I don’t know about," Fain said. "Our intent is not to strike. Our intent is to get a fair agreement. That’s been our intent from Day One."

https://www.wxyz.com/news/biden-says-hes-not-worried-about-a-uaw-strike-uaw-president-shocked

To summarize, Biden blocked a railroad strike. Then he said a UAW strike would not happen. Then he Pretends he supports the UAW strike.

Confused? Is he pro union or anti union? And why did he say the UAW strike would not happen before it happened?

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Without workers building more cars and trucks the price of automobiles will rise because of lower supply. Is it possible the auto makers are fine with that? Higher prices mean more profits, right? And Americans will have to pay more for automobiles because of it. A big hit to your wallet.

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@metal-brain said
Biden came here to Michigan to pretend to support the union there.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/22/politics/joe-biden-michigan-trip-uaw/index.html

But remember when Biden signed a bill to block U.S. railroad strike?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-bill-block-us-railroad-strike-2022-12-02/

From the link below:

"Speaking to reporters in Philadelph ...[text shortened]... s he pro union or anti union? And why did he say the UAW strike would not happen before it happened?
Biden will be the first US President to ever join a strike picket line. That's pretty pro-union.

As for the railroads, "Eight of 12 unions had ratified the deal" according to your link. The ones who didn't wanted the railroads to grant sick days which wasn't in the legislation that Congress approved, but subsequently:

"After being roundly criticized for not offering paid sick days, the leading rail companies – BNSF, CSX, Norfolk Southern and Union Pacific – have granted many of their 93,000 workers four paid sick days a year through labor negotiations, with an option of taking three more paid sick days from personal days.

“We’re very happy about this. We’ve been trying to get this for decades,” said Artie Maratea, president of the Transportation Communications Union. “It was public pressure and political pressure that got them to come to the table.”

When Joe Biden and Congress enacted legislation in December that blocked a threatened freight rail strike, many workers angrily faulted Biden for not ensuring that the legislation also guaranteed paid sick days. But since then, union officials says, members of the Biden administration, including the transportation secretary, Pete Buttigieg, and labor secretary, Marty Walsh, who stepped down on 11 March, lobbied the railroads, telling them it was wrong not to grant paid sick days.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave

Biden is probably the most pro-union President we've had since LBJ or maybe even FDR.

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I have noticed, that even the most pro-union representatives, when they get into power, seem to lose some of their pro-union rhetoric.

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@shavixmir said
I have noticed, that even the most pro-union representatives, when they get into power, seem to lose some of their pro-union rhetoric.
Shag Doody, it's called growing up.

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@no1marauder said
Biden will be the first US President to ever join a strike picket line. That's pretty pro-union.

As for the railroads, "Eight of 12 unions had ratified the deal" according to your link. The ones who didn't wanted the railroads to grant sick days which wasn't in the legislation that Congress approved, but subsequently:

"After being roundly criticized for not offering ...[text shortened]... -sick-leave

Biden is probably the most pro-union President we've had since LBJ or maybe even FDR.
LOL...biden is only going AFTER Trump announced he was going.

Will biden tell them none will have a job after he sends them to china

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@metal-brain said
Biden came here to Michigan to pretend to support the union there.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/22/politics/joe-biden-michigan-trip-uaw/index.html

But remember when Biden signed a bill to block U.S. railroad strike?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-bill-block-us-railroad-strike-2022-12-02/

From the link below:

"Speaking to reporters in Philadelph ...[text shortened]... s he pro union or anti union? And why did he say the UAW strike would not happen before it happened?
He is neither. Think about it. He does know to order choc chip at the iiiiiicccce creeeeaam parlor. his favorite! Do you libs ever picture a real man like Reagan or Bush doing that?

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@no1marauder said
Biden will be the first US President to ever join a strike picket line. That's pretty pro-union.

As for the railroads, "Eight of 12 unions had ratified the deal" according to your link. The ones who didn't wanted the railroads to grant sick days which wasn't in the legislation that Congress approved, but subsequently:

"After being roundly criticized for not offering ...[text shortened]... -sick-leave

Biden is probably the most pro-union President we've had since LBJ or maybe even FDR.
Biden signed a bill to block U.S. railroad strike. He is anti union no matter how much you want to lie about it.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-bill-block-us-railroad-strike-2022-12-02/

Limiting the supply of automobiles drives automobile prices higher so auto manufacturers benefit. Biden is just helping them drive up the cost of automobiles. Expect inflation to rise with higher auto costs. Biden is just a corporate whore.

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@averagejoe1 said
He is neither. Think about it. He does know to order choc chip at the iiiiiicccce creeeeaam parlor. his favorite! Do you libs ever picture a real man like Reagan or Bush doing that?
Biden said he cares about the supply chain, but is happy with the supply of automobiles being disrupted. Makes no sense at all. Hypocrisy on display for all to see.

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@metal-brain said
Biden signed a bill to block U.S. railroad strike. He is anti union no matter how much you want to lie about it.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-bill-block-us-railroad-strike-2022-12-02/

Limiting the supply of automobiles drives automobile prices higher so auto manufacturers benefit. Biden is just helping them drive up the cost of automobiles. Expect inflation to rise with higher auto costs. Biden is just a corporate whore.
Funny, you're parroting anti-union propaganda while accusing Biden of being anti-union!

I wish zerohedge, er you, could make up their mind.

Only an imbecile thinks that the automakers want strikes.

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@wajoma said
Shag Doody, it's called growing up.
Very Thatcherite. And, equally, very wrong.

It’s to do with mixed interests.
No matter how pro-union you are, when you become prime minster (or another position of power) you have to balance interests. You have to take right-wing press into consideration. Etc.

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@no1marauder said
Funny, you're parroting anti-union propaganda while accusing Biden of being anti-union!

I wish zerohedge, er you, could make up their mind.

Only an imbecile thinks that the automakers want strikes.
He was against the railroad strike dummy. That is anti union.
The auto makers will see profits soar while the workers are on strike. Only if the workers get raises will that change. All the auto makers have to do is wait for them to go broke and they will cave.

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@averagejoe1 said
He is neither. Think about it. He does know to order choc chip at the iiiiiicccce creeeeaam parlor. his favorite! Do you libs ever picture a real man like Reagan or Bush doing that?
Reagan, the guy with a jar of jelly beans on his desk?

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@metal-brain said
Biden signed a bill to block U.S. railroad strike. He is anti union no matter how much you want to lie about it.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-bill-block-us-railroad-strike-2022-12-02/

Limiting the supply of automobiles drives automobile prices higher so auto manufacturers benefit. Biden is just helping them drive up the cost of automobiles. Expect inflation to rise with higher auto costs. Biden is just a corporate whore.
This is what I'm talking about when you go off the reservation on a very simple, obvious question.

WHY do you always think the opposite of what is obviously correct?

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@metal-brain said
He was against the railroad strike dummy. That is anti union.
The auto makers will see profits soar while the workers are on strike. Only if the workers get raises will that change. All the auto makers have to do is wait for them to go broke and they will cave.
Less cars means less profits. If they could sell cars at a higher price, they'd do it now but you're ignoring that, in the end, the consumer decides what the price is.

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