@no1marauder saidThat is absurd. Monopolies cut production to drive up prices for more profit. Supply and demand decides what prices are. In this case no monopoly is needed since competitors are all UAW as well.
Less cars means less profits. If they could sell cars at a higher price, they'd do it now but you're ignoring that, in the end, the consumer decides what the price is.
Biden would not allow railroad workers to strike. Said he didn't want supply chains disrupted, but that was happening before that and he did nothing about it. Remember when there was a computer chip shortage hampering auto production? He was fine with that and what happened to auto prices?
@metal-brain saidThe Big Three automakers don't command enough of the US market anymore to have monopoly power. While they had 85-90% of US auto sales in the 1960s, that figure has dropped to the low forties since the last 10 years. https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/animated-chart-of-the-day-market-shares-of-us-auto-sales-1961-to-2016/
That is absurd. Monopolies cut production to drive up prices for more profit. Supply and demand decides what prices are. In this case no monopoly is needed since competitors are all UAW as well.
Biden would not allow railroad workers to strike. Said he didn't want supply chains disrupted, but that was happening before that and he did nothing about it. Remember when th ...[text shortened]... ter chip shortage hampering auto production? He was fine with that and what happened to auto prices?
If you want to rant about someone being anti-union why not use someone who really is like GOP Presidential candidate Tim Scott:
""I think Ronald Reagan gave us a great example when federal employees decided they were going to strike," Scott responded. "He said, you strike, you're fired. Simple concept to me. To the extent that we can use that once again, absolutely."
https://news.yahoo.com/tim-scott-invokes-ronald-reagan-152909934.html
@no1marauder saidI remember when Reagan did that, but Biden did the same thing with the railroad strike. There is no way you can spin that as Biden being pro union. He just needs Michigan votes or he is unlikely to get reelected. He could care less about UAW.
If you want to rant about someone being anti-union why not use someone who really is like GOP Presidential candidate Tim Scott:
""I think Ronald Reagan gave us a great example when federal employees decided they were going to strike," Scott responded. "He said, you strike, you're fired. Simple concept to me. To the extent that we can use that once again, absolutely."
https://news.yahoo.com/tim-scott-invokes-ronald-reagan-152909934.html
https://www.kwch.com/2023/09/22/uaw-strikes-against-automakers-spreads-38-locations-20-states/
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@metal-brain saidBiden didn't fire anyone and the law he signed was supported by most of the unions involved and didn't cost anyone their jobs Subsequently under pressure from the Biden administration, most of the companies have given the workers what they wanted most i.e. sick days.
I remember when Reagan did that, but Biden did the same thing with the railroad strike. There is no way you can spin that as Biden being pro union. He just needs Michigan votes or he is unlikely to get reelected. He could care less about UAW.
https://www.kwch.com/2023/09/22/uaw-strikes-against-automakers-spreads-38-locations-20-states/
Saying he acted in the same manner as Reagan is contemptible BS.
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This website says there were no sick days.
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/02/1140265413/rail-workers-biden-unions-freight-railroads-averted-strike
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@metal-brain saidJesus Christ, do you even bother to read anyone else's posts? From the page before this one:
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This website says there were no sick days.
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/02/1140265413/rail-workers-biden-unions-freight-railroads-averted-strike
"After being roundly criticized for not offering paid sick days, the leading rail companies – BNSF, CSX, Norfolk Southern and Union Pacific – have granted many of their 93,000 workers four paid sick days a year through labor negotiations, with an option of taking three more paid sick days from personal days.
“We’re very happy about this. We’ve been trying to get this for decades,” said Artie Maratea, president of the Transportation Communications Union. “It was public pressure and political pressure that got them to come to the table.”
When Joe Biden and Congress enacted legislation in December that blocked a threatened freight rail strike, many workers angrily faulted Biden for not ensuring that the legislation also guaranteed paid sick days. But since then, union officials says, members of the Biden administration, including the transportation secretary, Pete Buttigieg, and labor secretary, Marty Walsh, who stepped down on 11 March, lobbied the railroads, telling them it was wrong not to grant paid sick days.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave
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If Biden has such a strong support of unions why doesn't the corporate news media ever mention the railroad and how Biden stopped that strike? It seems to be suppressed recent history.
The corporate news media is protecting Biden. No mention of the railroad strike ever. It is as if history is being forgotten. Don't democrats want to acknowledge recent history? Doesn't the corporate news media want to acknowledge recent history?
History is being ignored. Why?
Why wont NBC News even mention the railroad strike?
@metal-brain saidYour endless attempts to attack Democrats even when they do good things is pretty pathetic.
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If Biden has such a strong support of unions why doesn't the corporate news media ever mention the railroad and how Biden stopped that strike? It seems to be suppressed recent history.
The corporate news media is protecting Biden. No mention of the railroad strike ever. It is as if history is being forgotten. Don't democrats want to acknowledge recent hi ...[text shortened]... ent history?
History is being ignored. Why?
Why wont NBC News even mention the railroad strike?
That the railroad strike was averted by an agreement that most of the unions involved supported was undoubtedly a plus for the nation; such a strike would have further disrupted supply chains and caused even greater inflation at a time when the post-COVID recovery was already effecting prices. And subsequently through the political pressure put on the companies by the Biden administration the workers got what the interim agreement didn't give them anyway i.e. sick days.
Any fair minded individual would recognize the ultimate result as a victory for the workers made possible by the Biden administration and one that was obtained without the economic hardship a strike would have caused the nation. The President should be applauded for that achievement which only reinforces his pro-union cred.
@no1marauder saidIf what you say is true then why doesn't the corporate news media want to acknowledge history? Not a single fargin mention of the railroad strike and how he handled it.
Your endless attempts to attack Democrats even when they do good things is pretty pathetic.
That the railroad strike was averted by an agreement that most of the unions involved supported was undoubtedly a plus for the nation; such a strike would have further disrupted supply chains and caused even greater inflation at a time when the post-COVID recovery was already ef ...[text shortened]... on. The President should be applauded for that achievement which only reinforces his pro-union cred.
I'm calling it what it is, election meddling by the corporate news media by suppression of recent history. They will not even mention it at all. As if it never happened. You know it is fishy. Forgotten history that recently is always fishy.
If Biden was really pro union he would have let the railroad workers strike.
Remind us all of his reason for not allowing the railroad strike. I know you do not want to defend it. Even you know it is hypocrisy, but you don't want to admit it. You are secretly hoping the news media never mentions it. You like suppression of history, don't you?
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@metal-brain saidGee, you're right; I can't think of a single reason why every newspaper in America doesn't have the story "There wasn't a railroad strike last year" plastered across its front page on a daily basis.
If what you say is true then why doesn't the corporate news media want to acknowledge history? Not a single fargin mention of the railroad strike and how he handled it.
I'm calling it what it is, election meddling by the corporate news media by suppression of recent history. They will not even mention it at all. As if it never happened. You know it is fishy. Forgotten ...[text shortened]... ou are secretly hoping the news media never mentions it. You like suppression of history, don't you?
@no1marauder saidYou don't know what an omission is? Omissions of history are so nobody thinks about that part of history. "There wasn't a railroad strike last year" plastered across front pages would remind people there was a railroad strike. That would defeat the whole purpose of the omission.
Gee, you're right; I can't think of a single reason why every newspaper in America doesn't have the story "There wasn't a railroad strike last year" plastered across its front page on a daily basis.
I wish the corporate news media would tell people the CIA was not involved in suppressing the lab leak assertion. At least they would be talking about it. Why do you suppose they never talk about it at all? Because people will think about it. That is not what they want.
If you were to tell someone to not think of an elephant what is the first thing they will think of? Don't you think propagandists know that? Now pull your head out of your butt so your brain gets oxygen again.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fauci-was-smuggled-cia-headquarters-influence-covid-19-origins-investigation-select
@metal-brain saidDon't you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself by posting dozens of ridiculous conspiracy theories on an almost daily basis?
You don't know what an omission is? Omissions of history are so nobody thinks about that part of history. "There wasn't a railroad strike last year" plastered across front pages would remind people there was a railroad strike. That would defeat the whole purpose of the omission.
I wish the corporate news media would tell people the CIA was not involved in suppressing ...[text shortened]... ge.com/political/fauci-was-smuggled-cia-headquarters-influence-covid-19-origins-investigation-select
I've already told you I have no intention of revisiting your absurd comments regarding the COVID pandemic (which have nothing to do with this thread).