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@eladar said
Let's cut through the crap. People lost their businesses, people are having to trade sex to pay rent, people are declaring bankruptcy and losing their homes.

Why? Oh yeah to protect the elderly, not the people who are suffering economically.

How does New York protect the elderly? By forcing the introduction of covid patients into nursing homes.
You didn’t address the main thrust of my post.
You’re dancing around it bringing up more of the myriad outcomes that arise from a global pandemic.

You are expending a lot of your time filling this forum with lots of granular events and stats from all over the place.
This must be very time consuming and stressful for you.

I just offered you a chance to take a load off and tell us what you are really doing on this site.
I offered you a chance to lay it on the table.
Talk about the evils of sex outside of marriage.
Or overturning Roe v Wade.
Or same sex marriage.

Put it out there !!
Tell us all why you want another 4 years of Trump.

btw, you haven’t moved in 29 days.
Try playing some chess. This is a chess site, after all. 😉


@mghrn55 said
You didn’t address the main thrust of my post.
You’re dancing around it bringing up more of the myriad outcomes that arise from a global pandemic.

You are expending a lot of your time filling this forum with lots of granular events and stats from all over the place.
This must be very time consuming and stressful for you.

I just offered you a chance to take a load off ...[text shortened]... p.

btw, you haven’t moved in 29 days.
Try playing some chess. This is a chess site, after all. 😉
Global pandemic is meaningless. It only matters what is happening locally.

I am dancing around nothing, you are simply throwing around false accusations.

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@eladar said
Funny how none of the covid lockdown folks can answer this question. They are simply trained to believe what they are told.
Thought experiment. Say there was a disease contagious enough so that 50% of the earth's population will get it, and of those that get it 1% die. There is a vaccine available that is 100% effective, yet due to side effects, 0.01% of those that get the vaccine will die. Other than that chance of death, there are no other serious possible side affects. Question: What percentage of the population should get the vaccine? (Note: this is a thought experiment, and obviously not a perfect fit to COVID-19).


@techsouth said
Thought experiment. Say there was a disease contagious enough so that 50% of the earth's population will get it, and of those that get it 1% die. There is a vaccine available that is 100% effective, yet due to side effects, 0.01% of those that get the vaccine will die. Other than that chance of death, there are no other serious possible side affects. Question: What per ...[text shortened]... get the vaccine? (Note: this is a thought experiment, and obviously not a perfect fit to COVID-19).
Thought experiment, let's say that what happens outside the US has nothing to do with what is actually happening in my city.

Should we shut down the US due to what is happening in other countries?

Should we shut down economies due to something that has not happened and will likely not happen?


@eladar said
Thought experiment, let's say that what happens outside the US has nothing to do with what is actually happening in my city.

Should we shut down the US due to what is happening in other countries?

Should we shut down economies due to something that has not happened and will likely not happen?
What ?
What happened outside the US has come to the US.
You’ve been following the news ?


@eladar said
People lost their businesses, people are having to trade sex to pay rent, people are declaring bankruptcy and losing their homes.

Why?
Why?
Because your society is fukked up and there is nobody sane in charge.

That's why.


@wolfgang59 said
Why?
Because your society is fukked up and there is nobody sane in charge.

That's why.
Exactly. We believed the 2.2 million death lie.

The road we took is in contradiction to the US Constitution.


Still no numbers to determine if an area deserves to be quarantined.


@eladar said
The road we took is in contradiction to the US Constitution.
But only you and a few other cognoscenti (Mr Dunning and Mr Kruger) recognise the fact.

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@wolfgang59 said
But only you and a few other cognoscenti (Mr Dunning and Mr Kruger) recognise the fact.
I guess most people do not care about what the Constitution says.

I know the New Yorkers around here would rather have more of an authoritarian state.

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@eladar said
Thought experiment, let's say that what happens outside the US has nothing to do with what is actually happening in my city.

Should we shut down the US due to what is happening in other countries?

Should we shut down economies due to something that has not happened and will likely not happen?
For a thought experiment, I presume there is some insight to be gained by thinking it through.

If there exists a disease that affects humans in the US different than humans outside, then it seems obvious we should ignore what's happening in other countries. Interesting hypothetical you propose. Now, about my thought experiment...


@eladar said
Lol, ok mister serf.
Chasing windmills...

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@techsouth said
For a thought experiment, I presume there is some insight to be gained by thinking it through.

If there exists a disease that affects humans in the US different than humans outside, then it seems obvious we should ignore what's happening in other countries. Interesting hypothetical you propose. Now, about my thought experiment...
Do you take away a person's freedom due to fear of what might happen?

We did, but it was a mistake.

If you need to quarantine the elderly, do so, but no need to quarantine the healthy young people.

There, answered your thought experiment. People should choose to go to work or not.


What they are finding out as things open up in some states is, restaurants are not very busy. because people are still leery about coming out.

This is good. This is voluntary, the way it should be. Stay home if you are afraid., and go out if you are sick of staying home. No biggie, except to the control freaks


Still no measurable way to determine when to take freedom and a way to make money away from individuals.

No reason beyond a group of experts in a position of power decide to do so.

No real reason at all.

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