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  1. 01 Jun '11 02:29 / 1 edit
    Since we are asking questions lately about what is a right, what do you think of porn in prisons?

    http://abclocal.go.com/kabe/story?section=news/national_world&id=8162220

    Apparently, the ACLU is pushing for inmates to have access to porn.

    Personally, I think this is an outrage!! I mean, who are we to deny prisoners the right to porn no matter how much it costs the taxpayers? The ACLU nailed it, porn is a right for all just like health care or welfare or social security etc. Thanks God we have organizations like the ACLU to protect all of our rights. Without them, we could have a continuous pornless prison system!! :'(
  2. 01 Jun '11 03:01
    Originally posted by whodey
    Since we are asking questions lately about what is a right, what do you think of porn in prisons?

    http://abclocal.go.com/kabe/story?section=news/national_world&id=8162220

    Apparently, the ACLU is pushing for inmates to have access to porn.

    Personally, I think this is an outrage!! I mean, who are we to deny prisoners the right to porn no matter how mu ...[text shortened]... tect all of our rights. Without them, we could have a continuous pornless prison system!! :'(
    It is as much of a right as health care.
  3. 01 Jun '11 03:16
    Originally posted by quackquack
    It is as much of a right as health care.
    What I have never understood is why prostitution is illegal but porn is legal.

    Can anyone splain this to me?
  4. Standard member spruce112358
    Democracy Advocate
    01 Jun '11 06:05
    Originally posted by whodey
    What I have never understood is why prostitution is illegal but porn is legal.

    Can anyone splain this to me?
    To be consistent, it should be the act of paying for porn that should be illegal.
  5. 01 Jun '11 07:54
    Originally posted by whodey
    What I have never understood is why prostitution is illegal but porn is legal.

    Can anyone splain this to me?
    Isn't a porn star almost by definition a prostitute? He/she is engaging in sex in return for money.

    But I would guess that the legalities surrounding it have to do with the potential for exploitation - but then I cant argue any further than that.
    Most likely the law makers like looking at porn but don't engage prostitutes (or at least are very ashamed of doing so).
  6. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    01 Jun '11 07:56
    Originally posted by spruce112358
    To be consistent, it should be the act of paying for porn that should be illegal.
    .....that gets most of the torrenting world off scot-free!
  7. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    01 Jun '11 07:57
    Originally posted by kmax87
    .....that gets most of the torrenting world off scot-free!
    ....that's if you can get over the little bit of illegality in not respecting intellectual property rights....
  8. 01 Jun '11 08:26
    Originally posted by whodey
    Since we are asking questions lately about what is a right, what do you think of porn in prisons?
    I think the real question is what you believe prisons are all about.
    Are they punishment?
    Are they to keep people away from society?

    The basic problem I think you have is that the tax payer has to pay to keep prisoners alive and grant them basic rights and you don't like paying all that money for someone you see as having ripped off society.
  9. 01 Jun '11 08:34
    Originally posted by whodey
    What I have never understood is why prostitution is illegal but porn is legal.

    Can anyone splain this to me?
    It doesn't make sense, obviously both should be legal.
  10. 01 Jun '11 10:13
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Isn't a porn star almost by definition a prostitute? He/she is engaging in sex in return for money.

    But I would guess that the legalities surrounding it have to do with the potential for exploitation - but then I cant argue any further than that.
    Most likely the law makers like looking at porn but don't engage prostitutes (or at least are very ashamed of doing so).
    I think its kinda like illegal immigration. Sure there are laws to uphold, but we don't like them so we won't enforce them.
  11. 01 Jun '11 10:48 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    It doesn't make sense, obviously both should be legal.
    It not only should be legal, it should be a right that the state imposes. In other words, if I'm a prisoner or a poor person in the ghetto, the government should flip the bill for me to see porn.

    Don't deny Whodey his rights!!!

  12. 01 Jun '11 10:51
    I smell BS

    http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2011/may/04/aclu-asks-judge-to-block-berkeley-county-jail/

    http://www.aclu.org/prisoners-rights/prison-legal-news-v-berkeley-county-sheriffs-office-complaint-intervention
  13. 01 Jun '11 10:51
    Originally posted by whodey
    It not only should be legal, it should be a right that the state imposes. In other words, if I'm a prisoner or a poor person in the ghetto, the government should flip the bill for me to see porn.

    Don't deny Whodey his rights!!!

    It seems your call has already been answered.

    In some countries such as Estonia,[3] France,[4] Finland,[5] Greece[6] and Spain,[7] Internet access has already been made a human right. This is accomplished by authorizing universal service-contracted providers with the duty to extend a mandatory minimum connection capability to all remaining desiring home users in the country.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Internet_access
  14. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    01 Jun '11 11:01
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    It seems your call has already been answered.

    In some countries such as Estonia,[3] France,[4] Finland,[5] Greece[6] and Spain,[7] Internet access has already been made a human right. This is accomplished by authorizing universal service-contracted providers with the duty to extend a mandatory minimum connection capability to all remaining des ...[text shortened]... ring home users in the country.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Internet_access
    there you go, you can depend on the socialists to keep the wood in whodey...
  15. Standard member spruce112358
    Democracy Advocate
    01 Jun '11 12:58
    Originally posted by whodey
    It not only should be legal, it should be a right that the state imposes. In other words, if I'm a prisoner or a poor person in the ghetto, the government should flip the bill for me to see porn.

    Don't deny Whodey his rights!!!

    And since now porn is a right, the government must also provide prostitutes to those who cannot afford them.

    I'm not sure what we call the agency -- 'Department of Affairs' is descriptive but not inclusive enough.

    Suggestions?