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@eladar said"What pharmaceutical companies make vitamin D?
What pharmaceutical company makes vitamin d supplements?
The companies include Sanofi-Aventis, which markets vitamin D supplements; Shire, which makes drugs for hormonal disorders that are given with vitamin D; Amgen, which makes an osteoporosis treatment; and Roche Diagnostics and Quidel Corp., which both make vitamin D tests."
A simple search on goggle. Next time look up your own nonsense questions before asking them; you make yourself look stupid.
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@kingdavid403 saidI buy my vitamin d from vitacost.
"What pharmaceutical companies make vitamin D?
The companies include Sanofi-Aventis, which markets vitamin D supplements; Shire, which makes drugs for hormonal disorders that are given with vitamin D; Amgen, which makes an osteoporosis treatment; and Roche Diagnostics and Quidel Corp., which both make vitamin D tests."
A simple search on goggle. Next time look up your own nonsense questions before asking them; you make yourself look stupid.
If they tweak the vitamin d to brand it, then it would be made by a pharmaceutical company. If it is just plain old d3, then no. I do not know why I am wasting time on the topic since you have no point.
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@eladar saidYou are the one with no point; and. you have been proven wrong with every claim that you've made here. You are correct, in that you are a waste of time talking to about anything. I know that you've heard that hundreds of times before. Geee... I wonder why...
I buy my vitamin d from vitacost.
If they tweak the vitamin d to brand it, then it would be made by a pharmaceutical company. If it is just plain old d3, then no. I do not know why I am wasting time on the topic since you have no point.
@kingdavid403 saidI made my point...
You are the one with no point; and. you have been proven wrong with every claim that you've made here. You are correct, in that you are a waste of time talking to about anything. I know that you've heard that hundreds of times before. Geee... I wonder why...
Covid shots are the big pharm plan. Keep the population immune system as weak as possible so that more people buy drugs and get shots.
You are a big believer in that model.
@eladar saidI was just thinking. While traveling in Africa, I had to have proof of yellow fever vaccination in order to enter some countries (which is required because I had traveled to some other countries where yellow fever was more common).
I made my point...
Covid shots are the big pharm plan. Keep the population immune system as weak as possible so that more people buy drugs and get shots.
You are a big believer in that model.
However, had I got yellow fever and recovered, I would have life long immunity. Do governments requiring proof of yellow fever vaccine not realize that natural immunity is superior? If someone entering a country from sub-Saharan Africa just told the immigration worker that they had had yellow fever in the past, shouldn't that have been enough?
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@techsouth saidPerhaps check for antibodies.
I was just thinking. While traveling in Africa, I had to have proof of yellow fever vaccination in order to enter some countries (which is required because I had traveled to some other countries where yellow fever was more common).
However, had I got yellow fever and recovered, I would have life long immunity. Do governments requiring proof of yellow fever vaccine not ...[text shortened]... the immigration worker that they had had yellow fever in the past, shouldn't that have been enough?
Oops, I guess you thought you had me there.
I notice you never answered my question about covid going away without vaccines.
@eladar saidIs this argument kind of like "well cars are nice and all but the auto manufacturers make so many gobs of money so we should all just bike everywhere?"
Just read an article, projected profits this year for the major companies are in excess of 50 billion dollars.
So vitamin d companies bring in just 2 percent of what the covid companies are taking in.
Vitamin d is not classified as a pharmaceutical since it does not require getting it through a doctor or pharmacy.
@wildgrass saidReally?
Is this argument kind of like "well cars are nice and all but the auto manufacturers make so many gobs of money so we should all just bike everywhere?"
So a person sho gets vaccinated, but would have survived getting sick without the vaccine is like getting a car.
Got it.
@eladar saidBut they don't check for antibodies. It's not a matter of what the CAN do. The CAN check for Covid antibodies, but it seems most places don't when considering travel freedoms. My question remains. Don't they realize that natural immunity is better? Is that the only possible explanation as to why countries don't accept natural immunity in place of the vaccine for entry requirements?
Perhaps check for antibodies.
Oops, I guess you thought you had me there.
I notice you never answered my question about covid going away without vaccines.
And I suppose all diseases will eventually go away. Bubonic Plague is not much of a problem these days, although it killed more than 25 million people. It took a huge toll, but eventually ceased to be a big problem.
And who knows what combination of diseases wiped out so much of the indigenous people of North America? Those diseases are not as much of a problem now, but they kind of pulled of a natural genocide.
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@eladar saidNo. Your argument had nothing to do with survival. It was that corporate profits leads to a culture that favors the vaccine as a treatment over cheaper options.
Really?
So a person sho gets vaccinated, but would have survived getting sick without the vaccine is like getting a car.
Got it.
I'm just thinking this sounds a lot like other arguments that don't take into account the convenience and uniformity that has become a staple of capitalist societies. Like everyone needs a car to drive to work.
Of course, there are other options. You can bike or walk or train or take buckloads of vitamin C. But your statements about how much money big pharma is making does not relate to efficacy comparisons of various treatments and makes no sense.
@techsouth
The black plague was countered with antibiotics. It is still around but is no longer an issue.
Your response just goes to show how little you know on the subject. I guess your only recourse is to do as instructed and get your shot and all the boosters.
@wildgrass saidI have explained it so many times. But you are right, yes this is sarcasm, most people who get covid die of covid. Without the vaccine covid will kill everyone.
No. Your argument had nothing to do with survival. It was that corporate profits leads to a culture that favors the vaccine as a treatment over cheaper options.
I'm just thinking this sounds a lot like other arguments that don't take into account the convenience and uniformity that has become a staple of capitalist societies. Like everyone needs a car to drive to work.
...[text shortened]... g pharma is making does not relate to efficacy comparisons of various treatments and makes no sense.
You guys are nuts.
@eladar saidThe black plague had at least 3 major pandemics before antibiotics were a thing. And each time it faded from concern for centuries. I answered your question, saying that "yes Covid would fade on its own", and correct me if I'm wrong, but that agrees with your opinion as well. But by agreeing with you, I've somehow shown how little I know about the topic? Very curious. And even now, bubonic plague is held in check by what would have been considered very cutting edge medicine even 100 years ago.
@techsouth
The black plague was countered with antibiotics. It is still around but is no longer an issue.
Your response just goes to show how little you know on the subject. I guess your only recourse is to do as instructed and get your shot and all the boosters.
But going back to my earlier question. Does the fact that countries require proof of yellow fever vaccinations mean that they don't understand that natural immunity is better than a vaccine? Or are there other explanations as to why they require proof of vaccine?
It has nothing to do with what they COULD do. It is what the ARE DOING. To demonstrate your ability to converse on the topic, you should be able to hold onto that distinction through out.
@eladar saidI'm not nuts. I'm vaccinated !!
I have explained it so many times. But you are right, yes this is sarcasm, most people who get covid die of covid. Without the vaccine covid will kill everyone.
You guys are nuts.
And up here in Canada, I can go to a restaurant. And put my mask away.
You know ...... that pesky little thing you guys have been complaining endlessly about ?
And people who are not vaccinated can't get into restaurants.
But they have the freedom to not get vaccinated.
And I have the freedom to not have to wear a mask and worry about infecting some unvaccinated dumbass.
Everyone has their freedom. And everybody's happy !!
I suspect you're still not happy. But that's your problem.
Keep posting your drivel. I'm going out to dinner. 😛
@eladar saidThe FDA will not allow antibody tests so they can push vaccine passports. You must take gene vaccines you do not need so they can sell more vaccines.
Perhaps check for antibodies.
Oops, I guess you thought you had me there.
I notice you never answered my question about covid going away without vaccines.