Originally posted by KellyJayI can't imagine that her choice would have been to sit in a chair staring into space for 15 years or more.
[b]I wish that Terri Schiavo had had the same choice. I wish that everyone had the same choice.
Well we know her husband made a choice for her using her name, I
wonder what her choice was?
Kelly[/b]
Originally posted by no1marauderNever said they had too, the courts made a choice she is dead.
She made what she wanted known to those closest to her. You just refused to accept her choice for your own selfish political and religious reasons. Thankfully, all personal decisions made in the United States do not have to meet with KellyJay's approval.
You and everyone else have the freedom to make any choice you
want, then you and others have live or die with those choices. I
have never, not once, said that was an issue with me. You can
walk in front of a train, your choice, you can lock yourself in
a closet and starve your choice, not me or anyone could stop
you if you wanted to die. It was never an issue of if she had
the right to make that choice, I still question if she did, but
that will come out during judgement day along with all the other
choices made by man.
The 'courts' can say and do what they will, and they did.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayI don't understand why people can't just discuss their differences without being rude or harassing.
Never said they had too, the courts made a choice she is dead.
You and everyone else have the freedom to make any choice you
want, then you and others have live or die with those choices. I
have never, not once, said that was an issue with me. You can
walk in front of a train, your choice, you can lock yourself in
a closet and starve your choice, not m ...[text shortened]... ther
choices made by man.
The 'courts' can say and do what they will, and they did.
Kelly
Originally posted by elvendreamgirlYes, KellyJay is certainly always polite esp. when he calls people who didn't agree with his position on the Schiavo matter (like you) "lovers of death". Maybe you should take a perusal of the Debates forum before you give a fanatic like KellyJay a pass, EDG.
No Kelly, I wasn't speaking of you.
Originally posted by Exiled
It is interesting that the Christian fundies do not bash the Pope for being "anti-life" or "the culture of death" when he chose instead to simply die with dignity instead of picking the option to be kept "alive" and brain dead indefinately on machines like Terri Shiavo. If being kept on machines for centuries is now considered "living" amongst the rel ...[text shortened]... logic, the pope has commited suicide. I wonder what Ivanhoe has to say about this, eh Ivanhoe?!
It is against Roman-Catholic doctrine to stretch life endlessly.
It is in AGREEMENT with Roman Catholic doctrine to end useless medical treatment, one that only prolongs suffering, ending such treatment is often called passive euthanasia.
When a person's time has come he or she can die in peace.
It is however against Roman-Catholic teachings to kill a person, to perform active euthanasia. It is against Roman Catholic teachings to kill a person in order to end suffering or for whatever other reason. Pain killing treatment, comforting the patient and giving good medical care in a peaceful and loving environment is required for a death with true human dignity.
Originally posted by no1marauderKelly has never been rude to me and I don't recall seeing him say anything rude. I may be incorrect, but I am basing this on what I have observed.
Yes, KellyJay is certainly always polite esp. when he calls people who didn't agree with his position on the Schiavo matter (like you) "lovers of death". Maybe you should take a perusal of the Debates forum before you give a fanatic like KellyJay a pass, EDG.
Originally posted by ivanhoeIsn't it useless medical treatment to feed a body that is lacking cognitive thought?
It is against Roman-Catholic doctrine to stretch life endlessly.
It is in AGREEMENT with Roman Catholic doctrine to end useless medical treatment, one that only prolongs suffering, ending such treatment is often called passive euthanasia.
When a person's time has come he or she can die in peace.
It is however against Roman-Catholic teachings to ki ...[text shortened]... l care in a peaceful and loving environment is required for a death with true human dignity.
Originally posted by no1marauderYes, we could all look at the name calling going on and see who has
Yes, KellyJay is certainly always polite esp. when he calls people who didn't agree with his position on the Schiavo matter (like you) "lovers of death". Maybe you should take a perusal of the Debates forum before you give a fanatic like KellyJay a pass, EDG.
taken the low road of name calling. You can if you wish bring up what
I said in context, I don't mind. The list is quite long in names you
have called me, sometimes I wasn't even in the conversation and you
made it a point to call me some names anyway. Odd isn't it, that the
very thing you seem to love to do, call others names, seems to upset
you when you feel it is being done to you.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayActually, I'm just setting the record straight. I "call you names" that are descriptions of your extreme beliefs; you distort people's positions to a ridiculous degree by calling them "lovers of death" because they don't agree with your religiously based positions on certain social issues. You also support the denial of rights to certain individuals because they engage in private actions you disapprove of. I regard your public position in these forums as detestable and will continue to say so. You may do the same concerning me; just don't play such a hypocrite and act surprised that people consider you what you are: a fanatic.
Yes, we could all look at the name calling going on and see who has
taken the low road of name calling. You can if you wish bring up what
I said in context, I don't mind. The list is quite long in names you
have called me, sometimes I wasn't even in the conversation and you
made it a point to call me some names anyway. Odd isn't it, that the
very th ...[text shortened]... love to do, call others names, seems to upset
you when you feel it is being done to you.
Kelly
Originally posted by no1marauderAhhh, I see...when you call me names it applies so it is okay and
Actually, I'm just setting the record straight. I "call you names" that are descriptions of your extreme beliefs; you distort people's positions to a ridiculous degree by calling them "lovers of death" because they don't agree with your religiously based positions on certain social issues. You also support the denial of rights to certain in ...[text shortened]... don't play such a hypocrite and act surprised that people consider you what you are: a fanatic.
right. My views are religiously based, my positions on various topics
are some how twisted and so on. Since my views are religiously based
positions they are some how bad if I attempt to voice them. I forgot,
I guess I need to get permision from the thought police to speak
up around you.
Kelly