Justifying the Unjustified War

@metal-brain said
https://rumble.com/vvpxxm-truth-about-ukrainerussia-not-what-you-think.html

Ukraine was part of Russia. Russia wants it back and if that is so unreasonable the USA should lift the trade embargo on Cuba and stop plotting to overthrow Cuba. Russia is essentially doing the same thing. Don't forget the Bay of Pigs Invasion and countless attempts to assassinate Castro.

They should stop the trade embargo and plots against Cuba regardless of what happens in Ukraine. Why are you linking the two, is it more Yankee arrogance whereby you get to horse trade other states sovereignty away.
Ukraine is a sovereign nation and recognised as such by every legitimate international agency you care to mention.
Can the British have India back please it was a really good money maker, Oh and Jamaica, just for the beaches obviously.

@kevcvs57 said
They should stop the trade embargo and plots against Cuba regardless of what happens in Ukraine. Why are you linking the two, is it more Yankee arrogance whereby you get to horse trade other states sovereignty away.
Ukraine is a sovereign nation and recognised as such by every legitimate international agency you care to mention.
Can the British have India back please it was a really good money maker, Oh and Jamaica, just for the beaches obviously.

"Why are you linking the two"

Because it is hypocrisy.

@metal-brain said
"Why are you linking the two"

Because it is hypocrisy.

No no it’s not the US has not invaded Cuba since the 60s and it was very short lived with a win for the Cubans.
Russia is constantly meddling in countries politics in the hope of regime change or at least enough internal division to render any given country less able to resist Putin’s geopolitical plans.

@kevcvs57 said
No no it’s not the US has not invaded Cuba since the 60s and it was very short lived with a win for the Cubans.
Russia is constantly meddling in countries politics in the hope of regime change or at least enough internal division to render any given country less able to resist Putin’s geopolitical plans.

But the USA attempted to invade Cuba. History cannot be erased from the 60s. We have invaded several countries since. There is a clear pattern if you pulled your head out of your butt long enough to get oxygen to notice.

"Russia is constantly meddling in countries politics in the hope of regime change"

Are you stupid? The USA does more of that than Russia. Your hypocrisy is never ending. The USA did that in Ukraine and installed their puppet dictator. Same thing before that with the Shah of Iran, puppet dictator who my government gladly armed and tolerated his brutality against his own people. Trump attempted a coup to oust Maduro and failed not long ago.

You know you are being fed propaganda when Condoleezza Rice Admits She’s A War Criminal During Ukraine Interview.

https://rumble.com/vw4t0o-condoleezza-rice-admits-shes-a-war-criminal-during-ukraine-interview.html

Double think. That is what you got sucked into. You are accepting 2 contradictions at once which is illogical. That is how you know it is propaganda. It is so obvious even you cannot deny it any longer. It is time for you to accept the truth.

@metal-brain said
Ukraine was part of Russia.

Russia was part of Ukraine, you mean.

@metal-brain said
But the USA attempted to invade Cuba. History cannot be erased from the 60s. We have invaded several countries since. There is a clear pattern if you pulled your head out of your butt long enough to get oxygen to notice.

"Russia is constantly meddling in countries politics in the hope of regime change"

Are you stupid? The USA does more of that than Russia. Your hypo ...[text shortened]... aganda. It is so obvious even you cannot deny it any longer. It is time for you to accept the truth.

You as usual are the stupid one it’s you, amongst others that’s trying to defend Putins indefensible actions with a load of irrelevant historical whataboutisms.
Russia is attacking in the direction of NATO’s eastern flank, it’s Russia that is killing civilians with indiscriminate bombing, it’s Russian soldiers that are raping and executing Ukrainian civilians so you and everyone else can shove their whataboutisms where the sun don’t shine.
Until Russia stops attacking Ukraine and negotiates a REASONABLE settlement with Ukraine which does not include the Russians getting a big chunk if their wheat producing land and which does not include cutting Ukraine off from the Black Sea. We keep piling more and more defensive and offensive weaponry into the hands of the Ukrainian armed forces.

And when we have got peace in Ukraine it should be fast tracked into NATO and the EU.

@shallow-blue said
Russia was part of Ukraine, you mean.

Russia was part of Mongolia too

@shallow-blue said
Russia was part of Ukraine, you mean.

Ukraine was part of the USSR.
Naturally, they say the USA stole it from them in a coup....which is true. The USA didn't like their colony called Cuba from being stolen from them...even though the USA stole it from Spain.

We stole Cuba fair and square and so did Castro. Spain handled the theft better than the USA did.....and Russia for that matter. Russia wants their colony back. Does that surprise you?

@kevcvs57 said
You as usual are the stupid one it’s you, amongst others that’s trying to defend Putins indefensible actions with a load of irrelevant historical whataboutisms.
Russia is attacking in the direction of NATO’s eastern flank, it’s Russia that is killing civilians with indiscriminate bombing, it’s Russian soldiers that are raping and executing Ukrainian civilians so you and eve ...[text shortened]... med forces.

And when we have got peace in Ukraine it should be fast tracked into NATO and the EU.

Historical whataboutisms are essential to expose your blatant hypocrisy.
You have war criminals in the USA and UK that have not been punished. Punish them and I am on board for punishing Putin.

Punish all unprovoked invasions or condone them all. Stop cherry picking war criminals to punish. Support the USA joining the ICC.

@metal-brain said
Ukraine was part of the USSR.
Naturally, they say the USA stole it from them in a coup....which is true. The USA didn't like their colony called Cuba from being stolen from them...even though the USA stole it from Spain.

We stole Cuba fair and square and so did Castro. Spain handled the theft better than the USA did.....and Russia for that matter. Russia wants their colony back. Does that surprise you?

The ussr was an empire that no longer exists how can you be this stupid and still remember to breath.

@metal-brain said
Historical whataboutisms are essential to expose your blatant hypocrisy.
You have war criminals in the USA and UK that have not been punished. Punish them and I am on board for punishing Putin.

Punish all unprovoked invasions or condone them all. Stop cherry picking war criminals to punish. Support the USA joining the ICC.

Your lying and being stupid again it’s not a choice between punishing and condoning. What we are essentially doing in this dispute is backing a potential ally against simeine who has countless times framed us an enemy.
I’m not interested in dragging Putin to The Hague but as I’ve said countless times if you can get any western war criminals to court you have my blessing.
It’s pretty obvious why you keep raising this silly red herring who do you think your fooling with it though.
The 2nd Iraq war cannot be justified by the west and the invasion of Ukraine cannot be justified Putin or his trolls.

@kevcvs57 said
Your lying and being stupid again it’s not a choice between punishing and condoning. What we are essentially doing in this dispute is backing a potential ally against simeine who has countless times framed us an enemy.
I’m not interested in dragging Putin to The Hague but as I’ve said countless times if you can get any western war criminals to court you have my blessing.
I ...[text shortened]... cannot be justified by the west and the invasion of Ukraine cannot be justified Putin or his trolls.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/american-made-javelin-stinger-missiles-151206774.html