@no1marauder saidthere were only four potential jurors that were black, each was excused because they all said they'd have a hard time convicting a black man....OF COURSE they were not accepted as jurors.
Didn't the prosecutor do that when he struck every potential Black juror?
And you and Cliff and the rest wouldn't even be talking about it except because the killer is Black and the victim White.
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@Cliff-Mashburn saidLink?
there were only four potential jurors that were black, each was excused because they all said they'd have a hard time convicting a black man....OF COURSE they were not accepted as jurors.
One said something like that; the prosecutors claimed they didn't want the others because they were "educators".https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/did-eligible-black-jurors-dismissed-160439566.[WORD TOO LONG]
We'll see what appellate courts make of that claim.
@no1marauder saidWhen a potential juror says “they couldn’t put a brother in jail “I think they shouldn’t be chosen…what do you think?
Didn't the prosecutor do that when he struck every potential Black juror?
And you and Cliff and the rest wouldn't even be talking about it except because the killer is Black and the victim White.
The other two were removed because they are teachers in this or nearby schools.
You are down to your last hope by trying to make this racial.
Spell checking will come next.
@kmax87 saidSo you have to use your imagination to have a point?
I was thinking just that. Apart from the tragedy itself, one life gone with all its potential robbed and the other wasted to regret their actions behind bars...
However if the colours were reversed would the defense be trotting out some stand your ground rhetoric, and would our favourite right wingnuts on this board have been vociferously arguing for an aquital?
Reality is, none of that happened. 🤡
@Mott-The-Hoople saidThere's an apparent Batson violation; we'll see if appellate courts accept that the "educator" excuse for striking the last three Black potential jurors was pretextual or not.
When a potential juror says “they couldn’t put a brother in jail “I think they shouldn’t be chosen…what do you think?
The other two were removed because they are teachers in this or nearby schools.
You are down to your last hope by trying to make this racial.
Spell checking will come next.
You and your ilk have focused on this case purely for the racial aspect and we all know it.
@no1marauder saidI find your reference to the victim as 'instigator ' to be reprehensible.
Back in 1984, a white guy, Bernhard Goetz, shot four unarmed Black men on a subway who had approached him and asked for money. One of them was paralyzed for life after Goetz shot him a second time while he was down. He was acquitted of attempted murder and assault charges. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Bernhard-Goetz
This case seems similar except the races a ...[text shortened]... etimes hard to explain rationally compared to cases that appear quite interchangeable on their face.
You are pitiful in many ways.
And, only stabbed him once? You are Marauder Crockett now.
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@no1marauder said“There's an apparent Batson violation; we'll see if appellate courts accept that the "educator" excuse for striking the last three Black potential jurors was pretextual or not”
There's an apparent Batson violation; we'll see if appellate courts accept that the "educator" excuse for striking the last three Black potential jurors was pretextual or not.
You and your ilk have focused on this case purely for the racial aspect and we all know it.
You want to correct that before I call you out for lying?
@Mott-The-Hoople saidYou always falsely claim I'm lying, so go ahead.
“There's an apparent Batson violation; we'll see if appellate courts accept that the "educator" excuse for striking the last three Black potential jurors was pretextual or not”
You want to correct that before I call you out for lying?
Everything I said there is accurate.
@no1marauder saidYou are lying and you know it. You sure do post a lot of links, but a link is absent here, that would easily prove you are not lying…why don’t you post one?
You always falsely claim I'm lying, so go ahead.
Everything I said there is accurate.
We know why don’t we?
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidI already did on this very page. It was a Yahoo article.
You are lying and you know it. You sure do post a lot of links, but a link is absent here, that would easily prove you are not lying…why don’t you post one?
We know why don’t we?
It's you who hasn't provided any supporting links.
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@AverageJoe1 saidThe trial testimony was Anthony was sitting in the bleachers when Metcalf and a group of others approached him and told him he should leave. Further, Metcalf even shoved him.
I find your reference to the victim as 'instigator ' to be reprehensible.
You are pitiful in many ways.
And, only stabbed him once? You are Marauder Crockett now.
That qualifies Metcalf as the "instigator" whether you believe Anthony acted in legal self-defense or not.
If the races were reversed, Cliff, Mott and others would be saying Metcalf "FAFO".
@no1marauder saidYou are quite transparent, Crockett Give it up, just digging a deeper hole
The trial testimony was Anthony was sitting in the bleachers when Metcalf and a group of others approached him and told him he should leave. Further, Metcalf even shoved him.
That qualifies Metcalf as the "instigator" whether you believe Anthony acted in legal self-defense or not.
If the races were reversed, Cliff, Mott and others would be saying Metcalf "FAFO".
@no1marauder said""During the April 2025 fatal stabbing at a Frisco, Texas, track meet, prosecutors and eyewitnesses identified Karmelo Anthony as the aggressor and instigator of the deadly confrontation.The incident began when Anthony refused to leave the rival school's ten
The trial testimony was Anthony was sitting in the bleachers when Metcalf and a group of others approached him and told him he should leave. Further, Metcalf even shoved him.
That qualifies Metcalf as the "instigator" whether you believe Anthony acted in legal self-defense or not.
If the races were reversed, Cliff, Mott and others would be saying Metcalf "FAFO".
I actually googled who was instigator AFTER your insipid post above, and this was front and center. You could respond... they got the year wrong, a great suzianne-like diversion.
@AverageJoe1 saidLMAO!
""During the April 2025 fatal stabbing at a Frisco, Texas, track meet, prosecutors and eyewitnesses identified Karmelo Anthony as the aggressor and instigator of the deadly confrontation.The incident began when Anthony refused to leave the rival school's ten
I actually googled who was instigator AFTER your insipid post above, and this was front and center. You could respond... they got the year wrong, a great suzianne-like diversion.
I'm sitting at a bus stop waiting for the #1 line. A group of football players come up and tell me I should leave. I refuse. One of them, 50 lbs heavier than I am, shoves me.
I'm the "instigator"?
@no1marauder said"Approached him and asked for money" hardly does the scenario justice.
Back in 1984, a white guy, Bernhard Goetz, shot four unarmed Black men on a subway who had approached him and asked for money. One of them was paralyzed for life after Goetz shot him a second time while he was down. He was acquitted of attempted murder and assault charges. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Bernhard-Goetz
Four people walked up to where Goetz was sitting, formed a semi-circle around him so that he had no way to run, and then one said "Give me Five Dollars"
It was perfectly reasonable got him to assume he was about to get robbed and/or beaten. That was hardly even controversial.
If he, in fact, went up to Darrell Cabey, who was slumped in a seat and said, "You don't look so bad, here's another" and shot him again, that would be much less justified, obviously.
One of the jurors on that case, Mark Lesly, wrote a book on the experience. In it, he takes apart the evidence very methodically and carefully. In essence, he (and the jury), after much debate, agreed that the confession was impossible or unlikely and that his confession was a result of overcompensation for his own previous traumas.
https://www.amazon.com/Subway-Gunman-Jurors-Account-Bernard/dp/0945167083
(The co-author, his partner, was my English teacher in 11th grade, though that's neither here nor there.)