@AverageJoe1 saidLies are only facts for those who embody TDS.
Facts are facts, no matter from whom they come.
@Zahlanzi saidSokrry, your post is rife with statements which are law-breaking activities, thus impossible to respond sensibly to. You get all upset like Sonhouse does.
"Do not all of those 'changes' restrict our freedoms? "
no
"They do, but someone who might have lived under communist concepts only 40 years ago sees no problem with that. "
Neither do people in civilized countries that haven' been communist, like France, Norway, Canada, Australia, etc
"Even the most venerable Sonhouse has given in to losing his freedom by taking han ...[text shortened]... amage is less important than my right to live on a clean planet and leave it clean for our children.
Dump toxic waste? Imprisoning your wife, which does not make sense as she has courts to protect her.
Settle. Write a logical post. How bout commenting on my query to No1 just above.
@Rajk999 saidVP's are not there to interfere with Presidential policy or direction, but only to swear the oath if the President doesn't make it. The recent exception to this was Dick Cheney. Well they were never going to let W actually run things were they?
She was VP along with President Biden for the last 4 years . Why TF did she not do 1/2 of that while her term was running? Know why? She full of it, and people like you swallow it.
@AverageJoe1 saidOf course I agree with it, but how does elimination of anti- Democratic features like the Electoral College or the filibuster infringe your rights?
The problem,,,,the problem, is that the will of the people might possibly trespass on my life. Take the old adage, "Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins".
I will repeat it....Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins'.
I wish, I really wish,, that you would explain what this means, and, more importantly, do you agree with it.
...[text shortened]... le'. You see, their 'will' just might tread on the freedom of other people.
So, what say you?
Be specific please.
@no1marauder saidno1m! So nice to hear from you again.
Of course I agree with it, but how does elimination of anti- Democratic features like the Electoral College or the filibuster infringe your rights?
Be specific please.
When I came back 4 days ago, as I said I would, I feared you had gone for good!
🙂
@no1marauder saidThis piece says we might as well get rid of the Senate. And the States? Yes, if you succeed, separate states will no longer be necessary, as any issue needing a vote would look to all 330M citizens to vote on it. The cowboys where WY used to be would not get their barb wire!! My senate which I love will disappear.
Of course I agree with it, but how does elimination of anti- Democratic features like the Electoral College or the filibuster infringe your rights?
Be specific please.
Oh , the filibuster? Would be moot….there is no Senate!!
Really, seriously, you are talking mob rule. Brrrrrrr. You are aware, that having no filibuster would allow Republicans in the Senate as a majority to ram down so many things that would upset you that you would be asking for the filibuster to come back. Likewise, we will be upset if Bernie and a bunch of people get in there and ram all of your programs down our throats. I have heard that they want a program for us to pay for sex operations in prisons. I’m sure you do not agree with that, but I bet you will not publish that you do not agree with that. Thus the disingenuous arguments on the forum.
HERE IS THE ARTICLE
They argue that the system is undemocratic. But if they succeed in defeating it, surely the Senate must go as well. After all, Wyoming gets the same number of senators as California but has far fewer people. Why not just abolish the states altogether?
And what about the Supreme Court? Are there any minority rights that a simple majority does not have the right to override?
Make no mistake: An attack on the Electoral College is an attack on the Constitution. Before we get swept into the frenzy of the moment, let’s consider what we are throwing away, and defend the Electoral College.
@AverageJoe1 said"Dump toxic waste?"
Sokrry, your post is rife with statements which are law-breaking activities, thus impossible to respond sensibly to. You get all upset like Sonhouse does.
Dump toxic waste? Imprisoning your wife, which does not make sense as she has courts to protect her.
Settle. Write a logical post. How bout commenting on my query to No1 just above.
That's what is in the future where Trump gets his way and just replaces every expert in the government and rolls back any industry regulation he can.
And what the fuk are you talking about, you can dump toxic waste right now, either in certain states, either certain substances that republicans claim are simply not that bad and can totally be dumped either because the fine is so laughably small that nobody cares.
"Imprisoning your wife, which does not make sense as she has courts to protect her."
Denying a woman divorce, is effectively imprisoning her, ya dingus. Trapping her in an abusive relationship, potentially endangering her life. As usual, you look at everything as a child, only what's right in front of your face not giving an ounce of effort to think about ramifications
@AverageJoe1 saidAnd that's what Bernie Sanders ever said he wants to implement? Communist Romania in the 80's? Is that what anyone, in the US or in France, Canada or Australia, or Germany or Norway or Sweeden, wants to create?
Communism is what Romania was in the 80's. Like, orange is what a pumpkin is.
Nevermind Bernie Sanders, a communist in your moronic mind and he isn't running anyway. Is Communist Romania even close to what Kamala Harris wants to implement in the US, you drooling idiot?
@AverageJoe1 said"Yes, if you succeed, separate states will no longer be necessary,"
This piece says we might as well get rid of the Senate. And the States? Yes, if you succeed, separate states will no longer be necessary, as any issue needing a vote would look to all 330M citizens to vote on it. The cowboys where WY used to be would not get their barb wire!! My senate which I love will disappear.
Oh , the filibuster? Would be moot….there is no ...[text shortened]... he frenzy of the moment, let’s consider what we are throwing away, and defend the Electoral College.
GOOD
"Really, seriously, you are talking mob rule"
Fuk right off. You love mob rule. You just want it to be YOUR mob. You know full bloody well you're in the minority. You know full damn well that your kind could never win in a contest of ideas.
"You are aware, that having no filibuster would allow Republicans in the Senate as a majority to ram down so many things that would upset you that you would be asking for the filibuster to come back"
Except they won't. Because it would be political suicide. The republicans operate by jamming the Senate into inaction then whine to the dumb americans that the
democrats are ineffective.
Good. Whoever has the majority, let them take responsibility. Let them pass laws. Let them pick the praise or the condemnation.
@Zahlanzi saidZzzzzzzzzzz. Pick it up man
"Dump toxic waste?"
That's what is in the future where Trump gets his way and just replaces every expert in the government and rolls back any industry regulation he can.
And what the fuk are you talking about, you can dump toxic waste right now, either in certain states, either certain substances that republicans claim are simply not that bad and can totally be dumped e ...[text shortened]... , only what's right in front of your face not giving an ounce of effort to think about ramifications
@spruce112358 saidI scan the place daily, but don't generally find anything worthwhile to "debate" anymore. Witness AJ's nonsensical response to my posr.
no1m! So nice to hear from you again.
When I came back 4 days ago, as I said I would, I feared you had gone for good!
🙂
@Zahlanzi saidInteresting that your comment, correct me if I am wrong, does not recognize the Kamala movement to socialism. She does not want socialism? Jesus. You are one disingenuous crap.
And that's what Bernie Sanders ever said he wants to implement? Communist Romania in the 80's? Is that what anyone, in the US or in France, Canada or Australia, or Germany or Norway or Sweeden, wants to create?
Nevermind Bernie Sanders, a communist in your moronic mind and he isn't running anyway. Is Communist Romania even close to what Kamala Harris wants to implement in the US, you drooling idiot?
Start a thread on that one. Jesus.
@AverageJoe1 saidTell us one of the differences in those immigrants of yore and the immigrants of today.
McHill omits a few factoids. Let us have a meaningful joust. Unlike the SHouse ravings. Tell us one of the differences in those immigrants of yore and the immigrants of today. We will discuss it, and then do another difference.
You start. Like, how much money food and , well, money and food, and shelter and transportation, did we give those wretches in 1900.
Or, I can start if you like.
Immigrants of yore came here by sea. Immigrants of today came here by land
- So, what's your point Joe?
@no1marauder saidThen look at your comrade just above.
I scan the place daily, but don't generally find anything worthwhile to "debate" anymore. Witness AJ's nonsensical response to my posr.
For the record, let me say I just left a 2 week think tank, for lack of a better word. Some plan to sell everything if she wins.
You and your comrade…..do you not know why? Don’t you!?
@Zahlanzi saidI do NOT want mob rule, fool. I want fairness, you rough-shod libs want street parades and demands met. Which, attack freedoms of others,…..you are an utter fool. Fairness is….ohnever mind, you fool.
"Yes, if you succeed, separate states will no longer be necessary,"
GOOD
"Really, seriously, you are talking mob rule"
Fuk right off. You love mob rule. You just want it to be YOUR mob. You know full bloody well you're in the minority. You know full damn well that your kind could never win in a contest of ideas.
"You are aware, that having no filibuster would allow ...[text shortened]... ity, let them take responsibility. Let them pass laws. Let them pick the praise or the condemnation.
Hey everyone, Mobman says here that we should not have states.
What an uneducated loser. Tell him Wyoming is diff than Mississippi.