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Originally posted by joe beyser
If the war on terrorism was legit, and it isn't, then we have already lost it. If it were true that foreign terrorists crashes those planes into the towers, then in one fell swoop they were able to take our liberty. Look up terrorism statistics and the picture becomes quite clear.
how is it not legitimate?

lost it? it has just started.

terrorists crashes those planes into the towers, then in one fell swoop they were able to take our liberty

you're not making any sense.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
how is it not legitimate?

lost it? it has just started.

[b]terrorists crashes those planes into the towers, then in one fell swoop they were able to take our liberty


you're not making any sense.[/b]
You would probably be better off on the Disney web site. The concepts there are on your level I am sure. Otherwise look the stuff up generalisamo-ron.

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Originally posted by joe beyser
You would probably be better off on the Disney web site. The concepts there are on your level I am sure. Otherwise look the stuff up generalisamo-ron.
argumentum ad hominem.

if you can't explain your points, don't bother posting it.

Im sorry if I forced you to debate like others on this website, you obviously don't have the skills.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
why doesn't the UK get a written constitution that protects civil liberties and basic freedoms in the first place?
we need one, it's time,

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Originally posted by generalissimo
argumentum ad hominem.

if you can't explain your points, don't bother posting it.

Im sorry if I forced you to debate like others on this website, you obviously don't have the skills.
Give me your address and I'll draw you a picture on a big chief notebook in crayon then. Seriously though, just look it up. It isn't up to the rest of the world to give you an education. You are right about my not having the same skill set as the rest. Thank god for that!! I hope I have indulged you here, now pull your head out and look it up.

Argumentum ad hominem must be some kind of city slicker fancy talk. It must mean technical foul, or I am a smart feller or something a chess site sofisticate says when he doesn't want to look something up.

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Originally posted by acb123
I don't understand the "war against terrorism". Historically, one man's traitor is another man's patriot...one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. If you invade a country, capture, kill or torture members of the population, manipulate it's government, what reaction do you expect from people who were, even before we arrived, indoctrinated into th ...[text shortened]... country reverted to a perfectly normal place which is now a popular holiday destination.
You're confusing the "war against terrorism" with whatever it is we're doing in Iraq. But totally understandable since George Bush and his supporters confused these two so frequently.

The official reason the US went to war in Iraq was because we feared that Saddam was developing WMDs and he kept refusing to let anyone come in and do inspections to ensure that this wasn't happening. The underlying reason was because the US wanted to replace a dictatorship in the (oil-rich) Middle East with a democracy - the "WMD threat" created the necessary justification for forcefully removing another nation's leader. The real reason, I suspect, was because Bush was upset at all the flack his father got for not "finishing the job" after the first Gulf War - and he ironically succeeded by indirectly showing all the critics why the father chose to leave Saddam in power.

As for the terrorists, the one place in the Middle East that was relatively free of terrorists was Iraq, due in large part to Saddam's brutal treatment of anyone he felt was a threat to his power. Any "war on terror" had very few reasons to invade Iraq.

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with respect i don't want to go much into the iraq war here, although it is relevant,
what matters is how the ability to spy on people is effecting our culture .

it's always happened, i guess greeks had spys .. they didn't have 24 hour cctv though , they didn't record all actions on huge databases, this is new ...only really powerful in the last few years, everyone who wanted to spy now has it in technicolour , n all backed up .. and in the countries that have traditionally been 'free' places, if people don't wake up n see the issues here , there not all bad but some aspects sure as hell are .. then we will steel defeat from all this technology that can make our lives better

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Originally posted by joe beyser
Give me your address and I'll draw you a picture on a big chief notebook in crayon then. Seriously though, just look it up. It isn't up to the rest of the world to give you an education. You are right about my not having the same skill set as the rest. Thank god for that!! I hope I have indulged you here, now pull your head out and look it up.

Argumen ...[text shortened]... feller or something a chess site sofisticate says when he doesn't want to look something up.
why don't you give me your address so that I can go to your house and beat the crap out of you?

You are right about my not having the same skill set as the rest.

well, at least you're honest about your ignorance.

city slicker fancy talk

it it too hard for you to understand? are you some kind of hillbilly who can't read properly and is mentally challenged because your aunt is also your mother?

he doesn't want to look something up.

look what up? your unverified and nonsensical claims?

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Originally posted by Black Star Uchess
I've been getting concerned about the UK lately.
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The way out are partly breaking out of a 2 party system...
Hmm, I could have sworn the UK had more than 2 major parties.

But I could just be a dumb american suppressed my by 2-party system.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
why don't you give me your address so that I can go to your house and beat the crap out of you?

[b]You are right about my not having the same skill set as the rest.


well, at least you're honest about your ignorance.

city slicker fancy talk

it it too hard for you to understand? are you some kind of hillbilly who can't read prop ...[text shortened]... sn't want to look something up.[/b]

look what up? your unverified and nonsensical claims?[/b]
Generalisamoron generalisamoron generalisamoron. What am I going to do with you. Here I was going to invite you to be part of a team I was thinking about putting together. You, FMF, and myself could team up and fight the NWO thread by thread. It apears FMF lothes both of us at present, but I don't see that as a barrier. But now I have half a mind to give you five or six licks with my belt!!

I didn't bother learning all that lawyer talk. Lawyers are trained to lie and argue points that they don't even believe in for the sake of winning. Who would you rather talk to. Someone that tries their best to tell you what they believe and encourages you to verify it on your own. Or do you want that lawyer mentality from all the lawyer wannabees? I couldn't help but pick up a little of it in college. Some of the nerdy dudes had signs posted on their doors and such. I will try using it in a sentence for you. So here goes

Carpe Diem Generalisimo exclaimed to himself as he plucked the plump and bloody booger from his index finger with his incisors.

You like it? No?

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Originally posted by joe beyser
Generalisamoron generalisamoron generalisamoron. What am I going to do with you. Here I was going to invite you to be part of a team I was thinking about putting together. You, FMF, and myself could team up and fight the NWO thread by thread. It apears FMF lothes both of us at present, but I don't see that as a barrier. But now I have half a mind to gi ...[text shortened]... ed the plump and bloody booger from his index finger with his incisors.

You like it? No?
Generalisamoron generalisamoron generalisamoron

looks like you enjoy name-calling. how old are you, 5?

It apears FMF lothes both of us at present, but I don't see that as a barrier.

FMF is a gender-confused poser, and you're an inbred hillbilly, you two make a good team, but I'll stay out of it. Im far too smart to join in.

I didn't bother learning all that lawyer talk. Lawyers are trained to lie and argue points that they don't even believe in for the sake of winning.

so you're prejudiced against lawyers, awesome 🙄
is it because they're smarter than you?

encourages you to verify it on your own

do you expect people to take your word without questioning?

Carpe Diem Generalisimo exclaimed to himself as he plucked the plump and bloody booger from his index finger with his incisors.

You like it? No?


you're losing it.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
[b]Generalisamoron generalisamoron generalisamoron

looks like you enjoy name-calling. how old are you, 5?

It apears FMF lothes both of us at present, but I don't see that as a barrier.

FMF is a gender-confused poser, and you're an inbred hillbilly, you two make a good team, but I'll stay out of it. Im far too smart to join in.

[b ...[text shortened]... r from his index finger with his incisors.

You like it? No?[/b]

you're losing it.[/b]
Generliimo, you are just upset at the moment. Why don't you just cool off and then shove it up your arse?

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Originally posted by joe beyser
Generliimo, you are just upset at the moment. Why don't you just cool off and then shove it up your arse?
Why don't you just cool off and then shove it up your arse?

Is that what you do?

LOL🙄

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Originally posted by generalissimo
[b]Why don't you just cool off and then shove it up your arse?

Is that what you do?

LOL🙄[/b]
What me? Heck no. It just seems like you are the type.

As fun as this is, I will have to give up the fight before it really gets good. I accidentally burned up my last chance with the moderator gods and I will get a permanent ban if this escelates much further. No hard feelings I hope.

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Originally posted by joe beyser
What me? Heck no. It just seems like you are the type.

As fun as this is, I will have to give up the fight before it really gets good. I accidentally burned up my last chance with the moderator gods and I will get a permanent ban if this escelates much further. No hard feelings I hope.
Im sorry but its very hard to take you seriously.

Permanet forum ban, that must be because you've been posting bs in the past, no surprise, I'd expect that from someone like you.