It's from the show "The newsroom" . I posted this segment because some republicans are flirting with the great idea of raising the minimum voting age because of huge gen Z turnout. As the character in the clip says, republicans have a hard time convincing some people to vote for them so life would be so much easier if they didn't get to vote at all.
What about minimum enlistment age for wars and minimum age to buy a gun you ask? Those are fine, don't be ridiculous. Gen Z lacks the maturity to vote (correctly, in their view) They can shoot brown people just fine or buy guns
Disclaimer: I know it's just a few losers calling for this right now (for now at least, who know what the future would bring).
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@zahlanzi saidLower the voting age to 12, but, you have to have contributed 30k tax (on net) to the money pool before you can vote.
https://youtu.be/p_-Q8L4l788
It's from the show "The newsroom" . I posted this segment because some republicans are flirting with the great idea of raising the minimum voting age because of huge gen Z turnout. As the character in the clip says, republicans have a hard time convincing some people to vote for them so life would be so much easier if they didn't get to vote a ...[text shortened]... st a few losers calling for this right now (for now at least, who know what the future would bring).
@zahlanzi saidRaise the voting age to 35 or allow people to run for president when they are 18.
https://youtu.be/p_-Q8L4l788
It's from the show "The newsroom" . I posted this segment because some republicans are flirting with the great idea of raising the minimum voting age because of huge gen Z turnout. As the character in the clip says, republicans have a hard time convincing some people to vote for them so life would be so much easier if they didn't get to vote a ...[text shortened]... st a few losers calling for this right now (for now at least, who know what the future would bring).
@zahlanzi saidI think you are confused about who's shootin'
https://youtu.be/p_-Q8L4l788
It's from the show "The newsroom" . I posted this segment because some republicans are flirting with the great idea of raising the minimum voting age because of huge gen Z turnout. As the character in the clip says, republicans have a hard time convincing some people to vote for them so life would be so much easier if they didn't get to vote a ...[text shortened]... st a few losers calling for this right now (for now at least, who know what the future would bring).
@wajoma saidFine as long as the poor get to kill and eat those contributing more than 30k net.
Lower the voting age to 12, but, you have to have contributed 30k tax (on net) to the money pool before you can vote.
Better get some ‘Purge’ type security son, and don’t leave the house.
@zahlanzi saidUniversal suffrage may turn out to be a noble experiment which fails. I’m in favor of some kind of minimum qualifications for exercising the right to vote. For example, spending a year abroad in unpaid community service in a country where there is desperate poverty and no functioning government, some place like Haiti. Maybe when they got back home, they’d appreciate what it takes to make a govt functional, without just criticizing everything the other party does (or doesn’t do).
https://youtu.be/p_-Q8L4l788
It's from the show "The newsroom" . I posted this segment because some republicans are flirting with the great idea of raising the minimum voting age because of huge gen Z turnout. As the character in the clip says, republicans have a hard time convincing some people to vote for them so life would be so much easier if they didn't get to vote a ...[text shortened]... st a few losers calling for this right now (for now at least, who know what the future would bring).
@moonbus said"Universal suffrage may turn out to be a noble experiment which fails."
Universal suffrage may turn out to be a noble experiment which fails. I’m in favor of some kind of minimum qualifications for exercising the right to vote. For example, spending a year abroad in unpaid community service in a country where there is desperate poverty and no functioning government, some place like Haiti. Maybe when they got back home, they’d appreciate what it t ...[text shortened]... to make a govt functional, without just criticizing everything the other party does (or doesn’t do).
Universal is the only way to prevent the abuse that comes with deciding who is worthy and who isn't.
"I’m in favor of some kind of minimum qualifications for exercising the right to vote."
Who gets to decide what those minimum qualifications are? What about someone changing those minimums? What are the limits, who enforce them.
"For example, spending a year abroad in unpaid community service in a country where there is desperate poverty and no functioning government, some place like Haiti"
So basically only rich people who can afford to stay a year unpaid and travel abroad would get to vote?
"Maybe when they got back home, they’d appreciate what it takes to make a govt functional, without just criticizing everything the other party does (or doesn’t do)."
Uhuh, or they would treat it as a vacation. You don't actually think a millionaire would send his kid to live in a rat infested motel and eat spam all year?
So i post a video of what happens when voting is taken away from some categories of people, you take this as something totally worth doing, as long as it is you who gets to decide which categories of people are barred insted of the "others"
Some republicans want to take away the voting rights of young people because they don't vote for them. What happens when someone in power decides to take away the voting rights of a group you happen to belong to?
Or do you think that can never happen?
@wajoma saidMr. Libertarian wants to ensure the monied interests hold the power and those without have no voice...
Lower the voting age to 12, but, you have to have contributed 30k tax (on net) to the money pool before you can vote.
...for "freedom."
As libertarian as Caesar.
@wajoma saidAn idea you stole from nutcase Hermann Hoppe:
Lower the voting age to 12, but, you have to have contributed 30k tax (on net) to the money pool before you can vote.
" Only property owners must be permitted to vote, and their vote is not equal, but in accordance with the value of the equity owned, and the amount of taxes paid."
https://mises.org/library/how-fight-modern-state
Hoppe, like you, was a fervent opponent of democracy.
@no1marauder saidI'd have to be aware of hoppe and his idea to be able to steal it. Kindly retract your accusation.
An idea you stole from nutcase Hermann Hoppe:
" Only property owners must be permitted to vote, and their vote is not equal, but in accordance with the value of the equity owned, and the amount of taxes paid."
https://mises.org/library/how-fight-modern-state
Hoppe, like you, was a fervent opponent of democracy.
When elections were first held in NZ only men could vote, and it was only men that held a certain amount of property, and I believe this predated Hoppe so who stole what where you should withhold your accusations until you can prove something.
I was aware of the land ownership requirement in NZ, but the idea I floated 'no taxation without representation and if you don't pay tax don't expect to be represented was inspired by you.
I don't have a problem with democracy, just that the scope of goobermint should be so limited that about all you get to vote on is what color to paint the White House this year. Vote away.
@wajoma saidYou have to have the "Kratos" with the "Demos" or you don't have "democracy".
I'd have to be aware of hoppe and his idea to be able to steal it. Kindly retract your accusation.
When elections were first held in NZ only men could vote, and it was only men that held a certain amount of property, and I believe this predated Hoppe so who stole what where you should withhold your accusations until you can prove something.
I was aware of the land owner ...[text shortened]... ited that about all you get to vote on is what color to paint the White House this year. Vote away.
@no1marauder saidRetract your accusation No1, you went over the line.
You have to have the "Kratos" with the "Demos" or you don't have "democracy".
@wajoma saidYou're really so ignorant of your own declared philosophy that you don't know who Hermann Hoppe is?
Retract your accusation No1, you went over the line.
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@no1marauder saidGave you chance to make it right but you chose to call me ignorant instead based on your mind reading abilities.
You're really so ignorant of your own declared philosophy that you don't know who Hermann Hoppe is?
The land ownership requirement idea pre-dates Hoppe. It was a requirement for the first elections in NZ. It was felt that the land ownership requirement was unfair to Maori men as Maori land was held tribaly and it was in this context that the race based seats were set up, a great shame on NZ which continues to this day.
On top of that it wasn't even the idea I floated, which was that you effectively bought into the system (regardless of land ownership) by proving you had contributed to it, this would be a nice idea to apply to new immigrants as well.
And ties nicely into your 'no taxation without representation' idea, which I like very much.
When are you going to link to the almost dead spoodge.com again, it's your usual recourse, after giving the 'elected officials' blah blah spiel.
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@wajoma saidIf you're ignorant, you're ignorant.
Gave you chance to make it right but you chose to call me ignorant instead based on your mind reading abilities.
The land ownership requirement idea pre-dates Hoppe. It was a requirement for the first elections in NZ. It was felt that the land ownership requirement was unfair to Maori men as Maori land was held tribaly and it was in this context that the race based seats ...[text shortened]... almost dead spoodge.com again, it's your usual recourse, after giving the 'elected officials' spiel.
Of course, the practice of allowing only males who own a certain amount of property to vote was fairly common in democracies a few hundred years ago, so that's hardly an innovation. But what Hoppe suggested was not only that, but that those who owned the most property and thus had to pay a higher tax get extra votes. This was exactly the same as you stated in another thread:
wajoma: Then to take it a step further your vote should be weighted by how much tax you pay.
So it was a logical inference that a so-called libertarian would have got such an idea from Hoppe, a well-known laissez faire "libertarian" and opponent of democracy. But if you say that you are so ignorant of the intellectual linchpins of your own stated political philosophy, I'll believe you.