@kevcvs57 saidThere is no evidence Assange got it from a foreign government. Assange even implied he got it from Rich. It is the truth and it exposed election meddling within the DNC.
We are talking about a foreign ( known belligerent ) government not a domestic media outlet. Pretend it’s the same if it helps you sleep at night. But it’s not.
Exposing election is not election meddling. That is called protecting democracy no matter who revealed it.
Even if Satan himself revealed the truth about the DNC and DWS that is the exposing of election meddling. As long as it is the truth the source is irrelevant.
You say foreign government, but if it was the British doing the election meddling you would have no problem with it if they were helping a democrat get elected. Be honest, it isn't offensive to you if it is any foreign government. You are only offended if it is Russia.
@earl-of-trumps saidThe publication of financial dealings of public servants is not meddling. It pertains to good governance that the public knows to whom its leaders are beholden and where potential conflicts of interest lie. This is a practically indispensable means of preventing kleptocracy. Previous presidents have released their tax returns voluntarily. The fact that Trump did not shows not only a lack of faith in democratic institutions, but outright contempt for them.
How is releasing information called "meddling" - and is it illegal??
Trick question: Is the New York Times releasing Trump tax returns "election meddling"?
@moonbus saidwhat about the release of “partial” tax information to create a false impression?
The publication of financial dealings of public servants is not meddling. It pertains to good governance that the public knows to whom its leaders are beholden and where potential conflicts of interest lie. This is a practically indispensable means of preventing kleptocracy. Previous presidents have released their tax returns voluntarily. The fact that Trump did not shows not only a lack of faith in democratic institutions, but outright contempt for them.
@mott-the-hoople saidTrump could easily have avoided that by releasing full tax information, 3 years ago.
what about the release of “partial” tax information to create a false impression?
@moonbus saidthat doesnt answer my question
Trump could easily have avoided that by releasing full tax information, 3 years ago.
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@mott-the-hoople saidThere is no answer to your question though is there other than it helps to shine as much light as possible on the mendacity of your beloved leader before November. It’s good that the electorate know what sort of double dealing scumbag is trying to deny them the democratic right to turf him onto the sidewalk.
that doesnt answer my question
Every little helps.
@kevcvs57 saidFirst of all, you would have to prove that these alleged hackers worked on behalf
We are talking about a foreign ( known belligerent ) government not a domestic media outlet. Pretend it’s the same if it helps you sleep at night. But it’s not.
of a foreign government. you can't!!
Many world-wide hackers for profit are Russian and they are criminals in their own
country. Let me know when you know for fact, who is who.
Thanks for playing
@Metal-Brain - but if it was the British doing the election meddling you would have no problem with it if they were helping a democrat get elected. Be honest, it isn't offensive to you if it is any foreign government. You are only offended if it is Russia.
Well worded post.
I would also like to add, that if the Chinese helped Joe Biden in 2020, the
democrats would be thrilled because....
"That's different!"
@earl-of-trumps saidYeah. I was waiting for him to say it doesn't matter which country is doing it. Then I would have pointed out Chris Steele (former MI6 agent) created the Steele dossier with connections to the DNC which was hijacked by HRC before she won the nomination. Clear British meddling in a coup attempt.
@Metal-Brain - but if it was the British doing the election meddling you would have no problem with it if they were helping a democrat get elected. Be honest, it isn't offensive to you if it is any foreign government. You are only offended if it is Russia.
Well worded post.
I would also like to add, that if the Chinese helped Joe Biden in 2020, the
democrats would be thrilled because....
"That's different!"
@earl-of-trumps saidIt’s an election sparky no one has to prove anything, public perception is everything.
First of all, you would have to prove that these alleged hackers worked on behalf
of a foreign government. you can't!!
Many world-wide hackers for profit are Russian and they are criminals in their own
country. Let me know when you know for fact, who is who.
Thanks for playing
Now run along and fetch the ball.
@moonbus saidOk, fine. But you do admit that the publication of Trump's tax records was done for
The publication of financial dealings of public servants is not meddling. It pertains to good governance that the public knows to whom its leaders are beholden and where potential conflicts of interest lie. This is a practically indispensable means of preventing kleptocracy. Previous presidents have released their tax returns voluntarily. The fact that Trump did not shows not only a lack of faith in democratic institutions, but outright contempt for them.
the sole purpose of swaying public opinion of Trump. This is Ok, you say. FINE.
WikiLeaks released emails from the DNC, Hilary Clinton, John Podesta and other
notables. That was nothing more than giving vital information to the public about
the corrupt Democratic Party and their presidential candidate that the public is entitled to.
Yet people erroneously call this "election meddling".
@earl-of-trumps saidNo we'd be amused because karma is funny
@Metal-Brain - but if it was the British doing the election meddling you would have no problem with it if they were helping a democrat get elected. Be honest, it isn't offensive to you if it is any foreign government. You are only offended if it is Russia.
Well worded post.
I would also like to add, that if the Chinese helped Joe Biden in 2020, the
democrats would be thrilled because....
"That's different!"
@moonbus saidTransparancy and complience.
The publication of financial dealings of public servants is not meddling. It pertains to good governance that the public knows to whom its leaders are beholden and where potential conflicts of interest lie. This is a practically indispensable means of preventing kleptocracy. Previous presidents have released their tax returns voluntarily. The fact that Trump did not shows not only a lack of faith in democratic institutions, but outright contempt for them.