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  1. 04 Aug '09 17:38 / 1 edit
    I just got a kick out of this story.

    http://abcnew.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=8236518

    Apparently, Lou Dobbs did the unthinkable on his show. He gave air to questions about Obama. That's right, he allowed people to voice their disbelief in the Messiah. He dedicated a segment to right wingers who questioned whether or not Obama had actually been born in the US. Of course, Lou's position is that he believes Obama was born in the US. However, he also added that he thought that Obama should try to put questions fully to rest by releasing a long version of his birth certificate.

    Clearly Lou is a right winged nut case that should, not only be banned from CNN, but perhaps many socialist countries around the world. Why he has not been imprisoned yet for such controversial and inflammatory opinions is beyond me.
  2. 04 Aug '09 17:40
    Originally posted by whodey
    I just got a kick out of this story.

    http://abcnew.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=8236518

    Apparently, Lou Dobbs did the unthinkable on his show. He gave air to questions about Obama. That's right, he allowed people to voice their disbelief in the Messiah. He dedicated a segment to right wingers who questioned whether or not Obama had actually been ...[text shortened]... he has not been imprisoned yet for such controversial and inflammatory opinions is beyond me.
    are you saying people should go around spreading rumors about Obama not being an american?

    don't you think lou dobbs was wrong?
  3. 04 Aug '09 17:43
    it's a smoking gun. otherwise, why hide it?
  4. 04 Aug '09 17:54
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    it's a smoking gun. otherwise, why hide it?
    is anyone hiding anything?
  5. 04 Aug '09 18:05 / 1 edit
    Why would Obama want to put this "birther" stuff to rest?

    If all of the conservatives are obsessing about this, they won't have as much energy to attack the healthcare proposals.
  6. 04 Aug '09 18:29
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    Why would Obama want to put this "birther" stuff to rest?

    If all of the conservatives are obsessing about this, they won't have as much energy to attack the healthcare proposals.
    Well that is just it. No one is demanding he turn over this so why should he whether he is guilty or not? In the meantime, he can just sit back and laugh at them all.
  7. 04 Aug '09 18:30 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    are you saying people should go around spreading rumors about Obama not being an american?

    don't you think lou dobbs was wrong?
    He is spreading rumors? I thought that Lou Dobbs was on record saying that the rumors were bunk? Is covering popular rumors but not supporting these rumors tantamount to spreading rumors? Should not popular rumors be investigated and put to rest instead of perpetuated by not addressing them?
  8. 04 Aug '09 18:35
    I guess one of my questions is, is covering popular rumors good journalism so long as you don't make accusations without evidence? I think it a far cry from what Dan Rather did when he latched onto a story and reported it as true about Bush when it was later proved to be wrong. Its not like Lou Dpbbs was doing the same, rather, he was simply addressing all the talk about this particular rumor.
  9. 04 Aug '09 18:37
    Is there something in US drinking water that causes paranoia?
  10. 04 Aug '09 18:46 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Is there something in US drinking water that causes paranoia?
    What we are seeing are the effects of partisan politics in the good ole US of A!!. Each side digs its heels in and trys to sling as much mud as it can at the other side. Parania is merely a tool in such battles. The funny thing is that you have people on here that geniunely think that the Republicans are the bad guys or the Democrats are the bad guys when, in reality, they are twin brothers. In fact, if Obama and Bush were not of a different color I would have judged them to be twins.

    So is Lou Dobbs wrong in calling these people out for mud slinging whether it be true or not or is the right thing to do to completley ignore it?
  11. 04 Aug '09 18:47
    Originally posted by whodey
    I guess one of my questions is, is covering popular rumors good journalism so long as you don't make accusations without evidence? I think it a far cry from what Dan Rather did when he latched onto a story and reported it as true about Bush when it was later proved to be wrong. Its not like Lou Dpbbs was doing the same, rather, he was simply addressing all the talk about this particular rumor.
    I suppose you can spend 20 seconds commenting on the silly rumors of the day if you need to provide some comic relief. But good journalists should be spending more time focusing on the real issues of the day and explaining exactly what's going on.

    Last time I checked, we have healthcare, cap & trade, economic stimulation, job creation, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Middle East all on the menu. If you have an hour long show and you have the time to spend on "birther" nonsense, then you're not working very hard as a journalist.
  12. 04 Aug '09 18:51
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    I suppose you can spend 20 seconds commenting on the silly rumors of the day if you need to provide some comic relief. But good journalists should be spending more time focusing on the real issues of the day and explaining exactly what's going on.

    Last time I checked, we have healthcare, cap & trade, economic stimulation, job creation, Iraq, Afghanista ...[text shortened]... the time to spend on "birther" nonsense, then you're not working very hard as a journalist.
    So do you think these stories are generated, perhaps artificially, to take our eye off of what is really going on in the world? Is perhaps Lou Dobbs one of their many puppets?
  13. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    04 Aug '09 18:52
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Is there something in US drinking water that causes paranoia?
    Is there something in the European drinking water that causes genocidal maniacs to take over countries with alarming frequency?









    Sorry; I'm not sure why I feel the need to do that... but for some reason, I do.
  14. 04 Aug '09 18:54
    Originally posted by whodey
    So do you think these stories are generated, perhaps artificially, to take our eye off of what is really going on in the world? Is perhaps Lou Dobbs one of their many puppets?
    I suspect that many people don't really want to hear about the real issues. Too complex. Too "boring".

    Lou Dobbs and others serve up fast food junk journalism because that's what sells. It offers no nutrition whatsoever, but it tastes soooooo good.
  15. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    04 Aug '09 18:57
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    I suspect that many people don't really want to hear about the real issues. Too complex. Too "boring".

    Lou Dobbs and others serve up fast food junk journalism because that's what sells. It offers no nutrition whatsoever, but it tastes soooooo good.
    I like Lou Dobbs for his folksy style. But there's not a whole lot of meat to go along with the potatoes.

    I noticed that during the immigration debate last year. He was front and center in that anti-immigration crowd. But mostly, he just repeated the same cliches over and over and over again.