@kevcvs57 saidI am a socialist, far from any qanon or anything close to it.
I would argue that nobody deserves to die but it’s typical of a Qanon twinky like you to get outraged at the death of one of your snarling psycho bitch fellow travellers whilst trying to smash her way into a defended area as part of a mob that had already violently assaulted the police and were trying to hunt down democratically elected members of congress for execution at t ...[text shortened]... he back or slowly garrotted in broad daylight by the police. You racist pigs are a proper suck joke.
What was it that makes you think you knew her intent? You are just another partisan hack who wants to stick to any republican you can. The irony is that you are just as socially intolerant as a republican typically is. You have more in common with a republican that you pretend to.
@metal-brain saidA police officer defending the lives of third parties does not have to ascertain the individual intent of each member of a violent mob before taking reasonable measures of self-defense.
I am a socialist, far from any qanon or anything close to it.
What was it that makes you think you knew her intent? You are just another partisan hack who wants to stick to any republican you can. The irony is that you are just as socially intolerant as a republican typically is. You have more in common with a republican that you pretend to.
@no1marauder saidLots of people exaggerate perceived intent. Would one bad protester at a BLM protest prove every single person's intent there too?
https://www.ourquadcities.com/news/national-news/capitol-mob-built-gallows-and-chanted-hang-mike-pence/
"Supporters of President Donald Trump who violently stormed the U.S. Capitol last week intended to "capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States government," federal prosecutors asserted in documents released Friday."
https://www.usnews.com/news/ ...[text shortened]... f Robert Contee testified in January."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-police-injuries-riot/
You are holding another double standard without proof of your allegations. You are being a typical partisan hack. You also claimed it was an insurrection without any evidence just because some pundits on the news said so. You are a born follower. You seem incapable of thinking for yourself. You need the news media to influence you how to think.
Congress was in no danger at all. They had a subway for easy escape. Why do you think many of the US Capitol police let protestors go inside without any scuffle? A private home is different. There is no subway under your home, is there?
Babbit was killed to protect property, not human life. She was just caught up in the moment and was a born follower much like you are. You don't know how to think for yourself either. You have lousy critical thinking skills.
@no1marauder saidI think you have your timeline wrong. Which came first, the killing of Babbit or a violent mob?
A police officer defending the lives of third parties does not have to ascertain the individual intent of each member of a violent mob before taking reasonable measures of self-defense.
@metal-brain saidYou are lying pathetically. Some members of Congress escaped the mob by seconds: https://www.newsweek.com/eugene-goodman-warned-mitt-romney-run-rioters-unseen-security-video-capitol-shows-1568411
Lots of people exaggerate perceived intent. Would one bad protester at a BLM protest prove every single person's intent there too?
You are holding another double standard without proof of your allegations. You are being a typical partisan hack. You also claimed it was an insurrection without any evidence just because some pundits on the news said so. You are a born fo ...[text shortened]... e you are. You don't know how to think for yourself either. You have lousy critical thinking skills.
As to Babbitt:
"The broken doors and a few officers were the only things separating the mob from members of Congress,"
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/no-charges-recommended-officer-who-shot-ashli-babbitt-during-capitol-n1256522
Your stupid insults aren't worth responding to; you read some nut conspiracy theory and automatically believe it to be true. You are a mindless puppet.
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@no1marauder saidYou are lying. I saw the video of Romney jogging, not running and the video didn't show anybody seconds behind them. They had lots of time to get to the subway, but took their own sweet time about it for drama.
You are lying pathetically. Some members of Congress escaped the mob by seconds: https://www.newsweek.com/eugene-goodman-warned-mitt-romney-run-rioters-unseen-security-video-capitol-shows-1568411
As to Babbitt:
"The broken doors and a few officers were the only things separating the mob from members of Congress,"
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/no-charges-re ...[text shortened]... read some nut conspiracy theory and automatically believe it to be true. You are a mindless puppet.
Where is the video showing who broke in? Were they identified and arrested or were they FBI agents who broke in and let go for a job well done?
"The broken doors and a few officers were the only things separating the mob from members of Congress,"
Right, as if the building was so small and they didn't have any advanced warning from the Capitol police. You are so full of it. You are so susceptible to propaganda it is not funny. I suppose you believe AOC needed therapy to get over it too. Ridiculous!
@metal-brain saidThe violent mob attacking Capitol Police, breaking into the building and threatening lawmakers came first:
I think you have your timeline wrong. Which came first, the killing of Babbit or a violent mob?
1:10 p.m.
Rioters begin grappling with police on the Capitol steps.
2:11 p.m.
Rioters breach police lines on the west side of the Capitol.
2:39 p.m.
Rioters are photographed breaking Capitol windows.
2:44 p.m.
Shots are reported fired in the House chamber.
2:47 p.m.
Huffington Post reporter tweets image of rioters at dais. “They’re in the chamber.”
2:53 p.m.
Rep. Alex Mooney, R-W.Va., tweets he has been safely moved from the House chamber. He says he and others were given an escape hood, a respiratory hood and mask for protection in fires or chemical accidents.
2:55 p.m.
Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tennessee, texts “shots fired.”
3:03 p.m.
Rioters are photographed on the Senate floor.
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2021/01/06/dc-protests-capitol-riot-trump-supporters-electoral-college-stolen-election/6568305002/
@metal-brain saidI'm not wasting my time on this BS. Everybody is a liar who disagrees with you; I have no reason to believe you and your nutty conspiracy theories over the word of Officer Goodman. Nor is it remotely reasonable to think that Sen. Romney would react to a violent mob breaking into Congress in the manner you say.
You are lying. I saw the video of Romney jogging, not running and the video didn't show anybody seconds behind them. They had lots of time to get to the subway, but took their own sweet time about it for drama.
Where is the video showing who broke in? Were they identified and arrested or were they FBI agents who broke in and let go for a job well done?
And all this is off-topic for this thread anyway; why don't you just start another one of your innumerable conspiracy theory threads so it can be properly ignored?
@no1marauder saidLOL!
The violent mob attacking Capitol Police, breaking into the building and threatening lawmakers came first:
1:10 p.m.
Rioters begin grappling with police on the Capitol steps.
2:11 p.m.
Rioters breach police lines on the west side of the Capitol.
2:39 p.m.
Rioters are photographed breaking Capitol windows.
2:44 p.m.
Shots are reported fired in the House cha ...[text shortened]... s/2021/01/06/dc-protests-capitol-riot-trump-supporters-electoral-college-stolen-election/6568305002/
Why did you omit the time Babbit was shot without warning? DUH!
@no1marauder saidWho called who a liar first? You did, liar!
I'm not wasting my time on this BS. Everybody is a liar who disagrees with you; I have no reason to believe you and your nutty conspiracy theories over the word of Officer Goodman. Nor is it remotely reasonable to think that Sen. Romney would react to a violent mob breaking into Congress in the manner you say.
And all this is off-topic for this thread anyway; why don't ...[text shortened]... just start another one of your innumerable conspiracy theory threads so it can be properly ignored?
@metal-brain saidI didn't, idiot. See 2:44 and 2:55.
LOL!
Why did you omit the time Babbit was shot without warning? DUH!
I don't know if she was verbally warned or not, but you'd think a barricaded door with a group of officers with their guns drawn should provide sufficient notice that to enter with a violent mob might be an imprudent thing to do.
"In the hour after they breached the building, the rioters—some carrying nooses, bats, pipes, chemical irritants and zip ties that can be used to handcuff people—were feet or seconds away from the lawmakers they sought to confront, hoping to stop them from ratifying the election of Democrat Joe Biden and keep President Trump in power."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/lawmakers-were-feet-and-seconds-away-from-confrontation-with-the-mob-in-the-capitol-11610481854
@no1marauder saidthe democrats could always release the videos and set the record straight. But they dont want you to see what actually happened.
"In the hour after they breached the building, the rioters—some carrying nooses, bats, pipes, chemical irritants and zip ties that can be used to handcuff people—were feet or seconds away from the lawmakers they sought to confront, hoping to stop them from ratifying the election of Democrat Joe Biden and keep President Trump in power."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/lawmakers-were-feet-and-seconds-away-from-confrontation-with-the-mob-in-the-capitol-11610481854
"At one point, The Times reported, a group of Trump supporters wandered through the building in search of Sen. Chuck Schumer's office. When they expressed difficulty in finding it, a Capitol Police Officer kindly directed them."
https://www.businessinsider.com/capitol-building-officers-posed-for-selfies-helped-protesters-2021-1
@mott-the-hoople saidSure there should be a full investigation of whether some CP aided the rioters.
the democrats could always release the videos and set the record straight. But they dont want you to see what actually happened.
"At one point, The Times reported, a group of Trump supporters wandered through the building in search of Sen. Chuck Schumer's office. When they expressed difficulty in finding it, a Capitol Police Officer kindly directed them."
https://www.businessinsider.com/capitol-building-officers-posed-for-selfies-helped-protesters-2021-1
If those rioters had caught up with Sen. Schumer what do you think they would have done? Given him a stern talking to?
@no1marauder saidSo YOU are guessing they would have hurt him?
If those rioters had caught up with Sen. Schumer what do you think they would have done? Given him a stern talking to?
Would that stand uo in court?