17 May 07
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6664215.stm
This is a note about just one case, maybe making the headlines because it happened close to the U.S., but the truth is that Mexico is out of control. Period. People are getting shot from car to car, 'disappeared', or executed. It is Sicilia.
The drug gangs cannot be stopped, simply because they have better weapons AND because the police and judges have a price. The U.S. should look to the south instead of the Middle East. The neighbor, friend, business partner, ally, and buddy is in deep crap and it seems it won't go out of it by itself.
What would be the solution? UN troops? Coup d'etat? Legalize drugs?
17 May 07
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Originally posted by SeitseLegalize drugs is a start. I think the "privateer" idea might work too; supplement the police with private security organizations. Those who do their work well will get the contracts.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6664215.stm
This is a note about just one case, maybe making the headlines because it happened close to the U.S., but the truth is that Mexico is out of control. Period. People are getting shot from car to car, 'disappeared', or executed. It is Sicilia.
The drug gangs cannot be stopped, simply because they have better out of it by itself.
What would be the solution? UN troops? Coup d'etat? Legalize drugs?
See this thread and this article:
http://www.playtheimmortalgame.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=68681
They should talk to Giuliani too. He knows how to handle this crap. He cleaned up NYC from the mob after all.
17 May 07
Originally posted by AThousandYoungSurprisingly, my friend, Giuliani was an advisor for Mexico City authorities years ago and, political colors aside, the socialdemocrats governing Mexico City are doing really, really well. The executions Sicily style are not taking place in Mexico City, but in the North and Southwest of the country. So perhaps Giuliani should should be advisor for the whole country, not just Mexico City, you're right.
Legalize drugs is a start. I think the "privateer" idea might work too; supplement the police with private security organizations. Those who do their work well will get the contracts.
They should talk to Giuliani too. He knows how to handle this crap. He cleaned up NYC from the mob after all.
17 May 07
Originally posted by SeitseI thought the southwest of Mexico was the Pacific Ocean...
Surprisingly, my friend, Giuliani was an advisor for Mexico City authorities years ago and, political colors aside, the socialdemocrats governing Mexico City are doing really, really well. The executions Sicily style are not taking place in Mexico City, but in the North and Southwest of the country. So perhaps Giuliani should should be advisor for the whole country, not just Mexico City, you're right.
17 May 07
Originally posted by SeitseYeah....let's interfere in more domestic scenes of frivolity...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6664215.stm
This is a note about just one case, maybe making the headlines because it happened close to the U.S., but the truth is that Mexico is out of control. Period. People are getting shot from car to car, 'disappeared', or executed. It is Sicilia.
The drug gangs cannot be stopped, simply because they have better ...[text shortened]... out of it by itself.
What would be the solution? UN troops? Coup d'etat? Legalize drugs?
Destroy the profit margin on drugs and 70% of world crime will be wiped out in a week's time.
17 May 07
Originally posted by AThousandYoungYup, good point.
The problem with using outside troops (UN, US, whatever) is that Mexico's a big place, and no outside agency can put enough troops out to hold more than a few points. Thus, the private organizations/militias idea. I mean, the US can't even control Iraq and Mexico's much, much bigger.
However, if the main cities of the North and the state of Michoacan are secured, the focal points of violence would ease down.
The problem with the Northern cities and Michoacan is that they are passages of drugs into the U.S. Obvious when speaking about Tijuana, Laredo, Nogales, Juarez. When it comes down to Michoacan, it is because there are large areas in the middle of nowhere from where the speed boats take off with drugs and head up North.
Then again, the traffic would find other ways.
Yeah, perhaps that solution is only epidermic. It's just that it hurts me to see that mafia violence happening in the same streets where I wandered around when a kid.
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17 May 07
Originally posted by SeitseNeither the United States, nor the UN can fix this, so until the men of Mexico nut up and have a revolution, I guess the alternative will be for them to continue crossing a dangerous desert, brave the gangs and coyotes, and work at menial jobs in the United States.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6664215.stm
This is a note about just one case, maybe making the headlines because it happened close to the U.S., but the truth is that Mexico is out of control. Period. People are getting shot from car to car, 'disappeared', or executed. It is Sicilia.
The drug gangs cannot be stopped, simply because they have better ...[text shortened]... out of it by itself.
What would be the solution? UN troops? Coup d'etat? Legalize drugs?
21 May 07
Originally posted by SeitseInteresting debating style. You suggest the legalisation of drugs as a solution. Shav proposes something similar, by saying get rid of the profit margin, ie: legalise, and you respond with this trash.
Thank you, Mr. Bigglesworth, for your thorough participation.
Here, have your pack of crackers.
Next!
You really don't understand the concept of debating, do you?
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21 May 07
Originally posted by RagnorakObsessed stalker, as always.
Interesting debating style. You suggest the legalisation of drugs as a solution. Shav proposes something similar, by saying get rid of the profit margin, ie: legalise, and you respond with this trash.
You really don't understand the concept of debating, do you?
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Aren't you supposed to have a woman?
Go take care of her instead of sniffing my behind all the time.
21 May 07
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Obsessed stalker, as always.
Aren't you supposed to have a woman?
Go take care of her instead of sniffing my behind all the time.
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21 May 07
Originally posted by RagnorakObsessed stalker, as always.
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A thread about me, posting after me all the time... you are a medical case, for documentary, really, ragdoll.
Either you lied about having a family or you got a divorce, or the woman finally decided to take the kid with his fatehr... I dont know, but lately you have a loooooot of time to stalk me, kid.
Take it easy.