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  1. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    13 Jan '13 01:28
    "Microsoft is switching off its Windows Live Messenger service on 15 March.

    On that date Messenger log-ins will no longer work and users must turn to Skype, said Microsoft in an email sent to all Messenger users.

    The email also encouraged users to update to Skype and familiarise themselves with the service before the switch-off.

    The service switch is a consequence of Microsoft's acquisition of Skype in October 2011 for $8.5bn (£5.3bn)."


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20984820

    A few more acquisitions like this and the world could end up with what amounts to a monopoly in providing this kind of facility. Is this to be expected and welcomed?
  2. 13 Jan '13 01:37
    Originally posted by FMF
    [quote][b]"Microsoft is switching off its Windows Live Messenger service on 15 March.

    On that date Messenger log-ins will no longer work and users must turn to Skype, said Microsoft in an email sent to all Messenger users.

    The email also encouraged users to update to Skype and familiarise themselves with the service before the switch-off.

    The servic ...[text shortened]... mounts to a monopoly in providing this kind of facility. Is this to be expected and welcomed?[/b]
    Yes I got that message yesterday.



    So what's all the panic about?
  3. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    13 Jan '13 01:44
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    So what's all the panic about?
    The topic is monopoly. In a case like this, is it inevitable? Do some sort of economies of scale trump consumer choice in terms of benefits and efficiency?
  4. 13 Jan '13 01:52
    Originally posted by FMF
    The topic is monopoly. In a case like this, is it inevitable? Do some sort of economies of scale trump consumer choice in terms of benefits and efficiency?
    The short answer to that is yes, if they are big enough to dominate
    the corporate world.
  5. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    13 Jan '13 01:54
    It really pissed me off when Google took over Yahoo and logged me out of the one when I logged into the other.
  6. 13 Jan '13 01:57
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    It really pissed me off when Google took over Yahoo and logged me out of the one when I logged into the other.
    As that guy in the Simpson's says...................Ha Ha.
  7. 13 Jan '13 11:03
    Originally posted by FMF
    The topic is monopoly. In a case like this, is it inevitable? Do some sort of economies of scale trump consumer choice in terms of benefits and efficiency?
    This is an interesting case, because in social networks, messaging services etc. monopolization is driven by social reasons - people only want to use one or at most a few messaging services so they will use whatever their friends are using. Entry to the market is easy, but convincing people that it's worth switching to a different messaging service is hard.
  8. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    13 Jan '13 19:22 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    The topic is monopoly. In a case like this, is it inevitable? Do some sort of economies of scale trump consumer choice in terms of benefits and efficiency?
    it seems the greatest irony of slavishly following the free market libertarian view, is that unbridled competition tends towards monopoly. Without a well regulated market and strong governmental agencies to police anti-trust activities, consumer needs are usually the first casualty in the war of continued market performance and growth to satisfy and maintain skittish investor confidence. There are other casualties of this approach. Justice for one. Just look at HSBC. Now we have too big to prosecute!
  9. Standard member Soothfast
    0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,
    14 Jan '13 02:03
    Originally posted by johnnylongwoody
    As that guy in the Simpson's says...................Ha Ha.
    That would be Muntz. Nelson Muntz.
  10. Standard member menace71
    Can't win a game of
    14 Jan '13 03:13
    Messenger has become Skype so I guess MS bought out Skype




    Manny
  11. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    14 Jan '13 06:22
    Originally posted by Soothfast
    That would be Muntz. Nelson Muntz.
    No relation to Hutz, Lionel Hutz.
  12. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    15 Jan '13 22:38
    Originally posted by FMF
    [quote][b]"Microsoft is switching off its Windows Live Messenger service on 15 March.

    On that date Messenger log-ins will no longer work and users must turn to Skype, said Microsoft in an email sent to all Messenger users.

    The email also encouraged users to update to Skype and familiarise themselves with the service before the switch-off.

    The servic ...[text shortened]... mounts to a monopoly in providing this kind of facility. Is this to be expected and welcomed?[/b]
    Bill Gates never let a charge of monopoly get in the way of his way of doing business.
  13. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    15 Jan '13 23:21
    Originally posted by kmax87
    .. unbridled competition tends towards monopoly. Without a well regulated market and strong governmental agencies to police anti-trust activities, consumer needs are usually the first casualty ...
    I remember IBM's near monopoly .....

    Microsoft, Google, Apple they still have to be at the top of their game.
  14. 18 Jan '13 18:33
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    It really pissed me off when Google took over Yahoo and logged me out of the one when I logged into the other.
    Google never took over Yahoo. Are you sure you don't mean something else?
  15. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    18 Jan '13 18:41 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Vartiovuori
    Google never took over Yahoo. Are you sure you don't mean something else?
    Something changed some years back such that my gmail account and yahoo account could not be logged in at the same time. IDK what caused that but it really pissed me off.

    Take a look here:

    http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/youtube/c5lPZNudfqk