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@averagejoe1 said
Did you say waste spending? You are right,,,,don't you think it should be stopped?Look what Biden is up to with the newly -printed trillions . Lets stop it already. I am with you !!

https://twitter.com/govwaste?lang=en
That twitter account DOES NOT address wasteful spending at all. It's just a partisan hack railing against Dems.

I've been at this a long time. Republicans are really good at wasting tax dollars. But not a single tweet in that thread complains about Republicans. This issue is bipartisan and actually worse (statistically) when Republicans are in charge.

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@averagejoe1 said
Did you say waste spending? You are right,,,,don't you think it should be stopped?Look what Biden is up to with the newly -printed trillions . Lets stop it already. I am with you !!

https://twitter.com/govwaste?lang=en
Because I was curious Joe, if this was really about government waste, I went back to the twitter feed from 2017. Remember that? At that time the Republicans controlled everything - the presidency and both chambers. Right? They also EXPLODED the deficit. Obama was spending $442 billion more than he had, and then all of the sudden Republicans take over and its $779 billion and then $984 billion and then $3 trillion!

Yikes. Not a peep from this twitter account. It just kept blaming Democrats, even though they had no control over the budget whatsoever. This twitter account does not care about wasteful spending, only anti-Democrat politics.

Blame the party that spends money, not the one your uncle tells you to vote for.

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@wildgrass said
Because I was curious Joe, if this was really about government waste, I went back to the twitter feed from 2017. Remember that? At that time the Republicans controlled everything - the presidency and both chambers. Right? They also EXPLODED the deficit. Obama was spending $442 billion more than he had, and then all of the sudden Republicans take over and its $779 billion an ...[text shortened]... mocrat politics.

Blame the party that spends money, not the one your uncle tells you to vote for.
You leave out what it is being spent for, Wildgrass. Trump added an average of $5000 to family income, Biden is costing us plenty. Inflation, at 9%, is he highest in 40 years. Families are struggling. It is Biden's fault, and you have seen on the internet what the $5.8 is being spent on. Trump would not do that. He loves America...Biden loves Mexico. Soon 30M of those aliens will be here; a lot of the people living in this country, maybe 20%, will be here illegally. 30M is the population of Texas. Last night hundreds of aliens were taken and emptied like wild hogs onto the streets of New York. You people are misguided, Wildgrass. I am of the opinion that none of you are raising a family.

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@averagejoe1 said
You leave out what it is being spent for, Wildgrass. Trump added an average of $5000 to family income, Biden is costing us plenty. Inflation, at 9%, is he highest in 40 years. Families are struggling. It is Biden's fault, and you have seen on the internet what the $5.8 is being spent on. Trump would not do that. He loves America...Biden loves Mexico. Soon 30M of thos ...[text shortened]... . You people are misguided, Wildgrass. I am of the opinion that none of you are raising a family.
I don't know about your thesis on Biden. He bears some blame but it's not possible for someone to do that much that fast, in what is essentially an extension of the prior administrations policy on spending. Remember all the huge stimulus packages signed by Trump? The vast excess in spending over what actually came in through taxes? That's how inflation accelerates and all the indicators of inflation were rising during Trumps last year. His strategy was print lots more money than exists and put it in circulation. It's been happening for many years. People were worried about Trump spending that much money long before Biden came into office. $5,000 per person is a loooot of mooolah.

Trump's presidency was defined by more deficit spending than Obama in half the time. Tom Cotton, a Republican, recently blamed Jerome Powell for inflation, citing the persistent low interest rates (which Trump supported) in the midst of a very good growing economy.

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@wildgrass said
I don't know about your thesis on Biden. He bears some blame but it's not possible for someone to do that much that fast, in what is essentially an extension of the prior administrations policy on spending. Remember all the huge stimulus packages signed by Trump? The vast excess in spending over what actually came in through taxes? That's how inflation accelerates and all t ...[text shortened]... e persistent low interest rates (which Trump supported) in the midst of a very good growing economy.
Y'all always write about present presidents like they should be angels and not borrow money as did their predecessors, which is obviously common practice . One has to to borrow money to make money.
And borrow they do. But this week, after about 10,000 years of existence, we have a true liberal, guided by lefties, wanting $5.8 Trillion. A bit of a stretch, dont you think ?? And a capitalist like me, who borrows like crazy, what we think of is can our next president, Dem Or Repub, go back to the well 3 years from now? Why, Wildgrass, Biden is killing the golden goose. But Not ONE lib will admit that here.
So, three years from now, about 38T in debt, we WILL indeed be having to print money. You fellers got children?? Bless them....

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@AverageJoe1
Nah, the ultrarightwingnutjobs will succeed in the Coup Part Duex and there will BE no democracy and it is clear you are perfectly ok with that.

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@averagejoe1 said
Y'all always write about present presidents like they should be angels and not borrow money as did their predecessors, which is obviously common practice . One has to to borrow money to make money.
And borrow they do. But this week, after about 10,000 years of existence, we have a true liberal, guided by lefties, wanting $5.8 Trillion. A bit of a stretch, dont you ...[text shortened]... ut 38T in debt, we WILL indeed be having to print money. You fellers got children?? Bless them....
No Joe! No!

"as did their predecessors" is not a reason to do something. The idea of fiscal responsibility was a staple of Republican party politics until very recently. I am a fan of Reagan's overall body of work, but the deficit explosion was a huge stain on his presidency. The idea of "starving the beast" to force future governments to slash spending turned out to be the equivalent of kicking the can down the road. Bill Clinton actually accomplished balanced budget just a little over 20 years ago. A Democrat no less. Then Bush blew it up again, then Obama got deficit spending down to half of what Bush spent in 2008 and then Trump exploded it again.

There's a pattern. Democrats come in and try to seriously clean up the financial mess that a Republican left for them.

No. The answer isn't "well Republicans spend because their predecessor spent". No. Republicans spending is higher, statistically, than Democrat spending. It wasn't that long ago when Republicans used to care about this stuff. The question we should be asking Republicans is "how can we do better?" Stop blaming Biden and look at the darn numbers.