13 May 19
I heard a Saudi tanker had an explosion give them a scare.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-iran-mine-warfare-persian-gulf_n_1304107
Sanctions have a blow back. They are an act of war, so why do people think those nations will just take it without retaliation?
Perhaps war is the goal of the USA so any excuse will do.
13 May 19
@chessturd saidAh yes.
Nuke em
When it’s not America, nuke ‘m.
But when it’s another country...
Jist sayin’.
13 May 19
@metal-brain saidSanctions are not acts of war.
I heard a Saudi tanker had an explosion give them a scare.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-iran-mine-warfare-persian-gulf_n_1304107
Sanctions have a blow back. They are an act of war, so why do people think those nations will just take it without retaliation?
Perhaps war is the goal of the USA so any excuse will do.
13 May 19
@metal-brain saidWell blowing up shipping is definitely an act of war so if the Iranian state is wanting to give the US an excuse for hostilities then they are getting off to a great start.
I heard a Saudi tanker had an explosion give them a scare.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-iran-mine-warfare-persian-gulf_n_1304107
Sanctions have a blow back. They are an act of war, so why do people think those nations will just take it without retaliation?
Perhaps war is the goal of the USA so any excuse will do.
13 May 19
@metal-brain saidI haven't followed your link, but if that is the same story as [1] then it's not clear it was a mine nor who did it.
I heard a Saudi tanker had an explosion give them a scare.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-iran-mine-warfare-persian-gulf_n_1304107
Sanctions have a blow back. They are an act of war, so why do people think those nations will just take it without retaliation?
Perhaps war is the goal of the USA so any excuse will do.
[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48245204
13 May 19
@deepthought saidI didn’t follow the link either but thanks for the link.
I haven't followed your link, but if that is the same story as [1] then it's not clear it was a mine nor who did it.
[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48245204
Frank Gardeners choice of the word “Murky” probably describes the situation best.
13 May 19
@kevcvs57 saidIf it was one ship, maybe accidental but 4? No accident. But the damage to the Norwegian ship looked fairly minor, they said it 'collided' with that object accept it was clearly hit in the back. If they collided with it they were going in reverse....
I didn’t follow the link either but thanks for the link.
Frank Gardeners choice of the word “Murky” probably describes the situation best.
It clearly wasn't a torpedo from a sub, that would have sunk and of the ships hit. So it probably was some kind of mine, maybe a water based drone or some such, cheap enough to make.
13 May 19
@sonhouse saidSo it could have been pretty much anyone then, obviously Iran or one of their fellow travellers springs to mind, but without going all ‘tin foil hat’ there are any number of actors in the region who benefit (in their opinion) from raised tension and even open conflict between the US and Iran.
If it was one ship, maybe accidental but 4? No accident. But the damage to the Norwegian ship looked fairly minor, they said it 'collided' with that object accept it was clearly hit in the back. If they collided with it they were going in reverse....
It clearly wasn't a torpedo from a sub, that would have sunk and of the ships hit. So it probably was some kind of mine, maybe a water based drone or some such, cheap enough to make.
@kevcvs57 saidWell it seems to validate US sending aircraft carriers to the area. But those forces are in the Red sea so pretty much out of the action for the Strait of Hormuz. I guess there will now be mine detector ships out in droves in the Persian Gulf now. Anyone from Oman to Kuwait could be responsible though.
So it could have been pretty much anyone then, obviously Iran or one of their fellow travellers springs to mind, but without going all ‘tin foil hat’ there are any number of actors in the region who benefit (in their opinion) from raised tension and even open conflict between the US and Iran.
13 May 19
@sonhouse saidI think that was always going to happen once the sanctions were ramped up, Iran has a history of flexing its military muscle in those waters and the US has a history of flexing back.
Well it seems to validate US sending aircraft carriers to the area. But those forces are in the Red sea so pretty much out of the action for the Strait of Hormuz. I guess there will now be mine detector ships out in droves in the Persian Gulf now. Anyone from Oman to Kuwait could be responsible though.
13 May 19
@athousandyoung saidI seem to remember somebody smart saying World War III would be an economic one.
Sanctions are not acts of war.