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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8041421.stm

(extract from the article)

Pope Benedict XVI has warned against the misuse of religion for political ends, in a speech to Muslim leaders on the second day of his visit to Jordan.
Speaking in the King Hussein Mosque in Amman, he argued that religion was a force for good, but its "manipulation" caused divisions and even violence.
The pontiff is also due to visit Israel and the West Bank on an eight-day tour.
Analysts say he is keen to improve ties with the Islamic world. A speech he made in 2006 offended many Muslims.
Some groups in Jordan had called for him to apologise for the speech, in which he quoted a medieval scholar who criticised the Prophet Muhammad.
But the pontiff apologised at the time, and did not refer to the 2006 speech during his address at the Amman mosque.

During his address in Amman, the pontiff called on Jordan's Muslims and Christians to work together to improve their society.

"Some assert that religion is necessarily a cause of division in our world and so they argue that the lesser attention given to religion in the public sphere the better," he said.

"Certainly, the contradiction of tensions and divisions between the followers of different religious traditions, sadly, cannot be denied.

"However, is it not also the case that often it is the ideological manipulation of religion, sometimes for political ends, that is the real catalyst for tension and division, and at times even violence in society?"

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Originally posted by generalissimo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8041421.stm

(extract from the article)

Pope Benedict XVI has warned against the misuse of religion for political ends, in a speech to Muslim leaders on the second day of his visit to Jordan.
Speaking in the King Hussein Mosque in Amman, he argued that religion was a force for good, but its "manipulat ...[text shortened]... t is the real catalyst for tension and division, and at times even violence in society?"
He shouldn't talk so much...

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The political leader of a religion warns about the misuse of religion for political reasons. Hmm.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8041421.stm
Generalissimo, in posting this 'extract', have you removed any words or sentences or paragraphs in a deliberate attempt to alter the balance or substance of this article? You have been caught doing this before. Have you done it on this occasion?

Please state clearly whether or not you have doctored this 'extract' in any way in an attempt to deceive fellow posters.

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
He shouldn't talk so much...
Why not?

He was wrong about condoms, but that doesn't mean he's wrong about everything else.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
The political leader of a religion warns about the misuse of religion for political reasons. Hmm.
He isn't a politician.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
He isn't a politician.
In what sense is the pope not a politician?

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
In what sense is the pope not a politician?
in what sense is he one?

He is the leader of a religious city-state, but that doesn't make him an equal to lets say, president Obama.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
in what sense is he [a politician]?
He's elected.

He's a head of state.

He's the leader and top manager of a massive organization with a political agenda.

He constantly lobbies other political figures in order to effect political change.

In what sense do you think he is not a politician?

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The King of Jordan's a scumbag.

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Originally posted by FMF
He's elected.

He's a head of state.

He's the leader and top manager of a massive organization with a political agenda.

He constantly lobbies other political figures in order to effect political change.

In what sense do you think he is [b]not
a politician?[/b]
He's a head of state

true.

He's the leader and top manager of a massive organization with a political agenda.

what political agenda? there are many factions within the church, there isn't a clear political agenda.

He constantly lobbies other political figures in order to effect political change.

really? evidence please.

In what sense do you think he is [b]not a politician?[/b]

he isn't member of a political party, nor does he have the duties of a normal politician.

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Originally posted by scherzo
The King of Jordan's a scumbag.
How so?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
[b]He's a head of state

true.

He's the leader and top manager of a massive organization with a political agenda.

what political agenda? there are many factions within the church, there isn't a clear political agenda.

He constantly lobbies other political figures in order to effect political change.

really? evidence plea ...[text shortened]...

he isn't member of a political party, nor does he have the duties of a normal politician.[/b]
The political agenda of the Catholic Church includes but is not limited to:

- Lobbying against condom use.
- Lobbying against gay marriage.
etc.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
The political agenda of the Catholic Church includes but is not limited to:

- Lobbying against condom use.
- Lobbying against gay marriage.
etc.
That is limited to some individuals in the church (including the pope).

There are many other people who are in favor of condoms.

The church is very big and diverse.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
That is limited to some individuals in the church (including the pope).

There are many other people who are in favor of condoms.

The church is very big and diverse.
There are lots of Republicans who opposed the bailout package(s). Does that mean George W. Bush is not a politician?

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