Mueller is flipping another Trump staffer

Originally posted by @whodey
And the kicker was Tim Giethner, head of the entire IRS did not pay his taxes properly either.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=6704526

The only difference is, he was still appointed to his position even though everyone knew he cheated on his taxes.

Keep in mind, Al Capone was sent to jail because he did not pay his taxes either. Just imagin ...[text shortened]... t is, if they want you off the streets for any reason.

We now life in a lawless police state.

Yes, what an awful violation of a person's rights that they can't give documents to Russian spies and then go to meetings with Russian officials in Moscow without being scrutinized.

Originally posted by @no1marauder
As opposed to virtually anyone on this board, with the possible exception of whodey, yes.

The day that you can see the glaring in others while failing to see the glaring in yourself is the day of extreme polarization.
That day is here.
Conversations with others is no longer possible.
That you might be in error while others might be right is no longer possible.

Sad and dangerous day indeed.

Originally posted by @no1marauder
Yes, what an awful violation of a person's rights that they can't give documents to Russian spies and then go to meetings with Russian officials in Moscow without being scrutinized.

All Trump has to do is appoint stooge FISA judges and then issue a FISA warrant against Hilary

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Two can play at this game. Look at all the money laundering that went on under Hillary.

Originally posted by @freakykbh
The day that you can see the glaring in others while failing to see the glaring in yourself is the day of extreme polarization.
That day is here.
Conversations with others is no longer possible.
That you might be in error while others might be right is no longer possible.

Sad and dangerous day indeed.

no1 just called you less of a liar than Donald Trump. Learn how to take a compliment, sheesh.

Originally posted by @whodey
All Trump has to do is appoint stooge FISA judges and then issue a FISA warrant against Hilary

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Two can play at this game. Look at all the money laundering that went on under Hillary.

Gee, I wonder why no one is investigating Clinton for money laundering. Could it be... because there's no evidence?

Originally posted by @no1marauder
Yes, there is a difference between a "meeting" and "collusion" - the meeting was the place where this particular act of collusion took place:

The June 3, 2016, email sent to Donald Trump Jr. could hardly have been more explicit: One of his father’s former Russian business partners had been contacted by a senior Russian government official and was off ...[text shortened]... ey did were crimes and any Americans who knowingly aided these crimes is also criminally liable.

And about a month later, Carter Page, one of Trump's foreign policy advisers, was in Moscow meeting with Russian officials. The same Carter Page who been under surveillance several years before and been seen giving documents to Russian spies and had retained extensive contacts in Russia.

Of course, the surveillance of Page is what the whole ridiculous Nunes' memo was screaming about.

Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
Gee, I wonder why no one is investigating Clinton for money laundering. Could it be... because there's no evidence?

It's the same reason why the now head of the FBI did not pay his taxes and is still the head of the FBI. We have become a nation of men, now laws.

No one even cares about how Hillary colluded with the Ukraine.


Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

Turns out, a veteran DNC operative who previously worked in the Clinton White House, Alexandra Chalupa, worked with government officials in the Ukraine to dig up oppo research on Trump and his top campaign aide at the time, Paul Manafort.


It is obvious so me that the Ukraine made deals with Hillary for protection and the Russians tried to oppose this by trying to support Trump, only, it is just Trump who is being investigated here.

Originally posted by @no1marauder
And about a month later, Carter Page, one of Trump's foreign policy advisers, was in Moscow meeting with Russian officials. The same Carter Page who been under surveillance several years before and been seen giving documents to Russian spies and had retained extensive contacts in Russia.

Of course, the surveillance of Page is what the whole ridiculous Nunes' memo was screaming about.

Then prosecute him for colluding with the Russians, not tax evasion, not money laundering.

If you can't put them away for the crime for which the warrant was made, then it just becomes a baseless witch hunt.

It reminds me of laws down south in Louisiana. Police would pull people over for speeding and then find drugs and then impound the car. Trouble is, it was lucrative so they began planting drugs in nice cars.

Originally posted by @whodey
All Trump has to do is appoint stooge FISA judges and then issue a FISA warrant against Hilary

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Two can play at this game. Look at all the money laundering that went on under Hillary.

Trump doesn't get to appoint FISA judges; Chief Justice Roberts selects them from existing Federal District judges for 7 year terms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Court#Composition

Originally posted by @whodey
Then prosecute him for colluding with the Russians, not tax evasion, not money laundering.

If you can't put them away for the crime for which the warrant was made, then it just becomes a baseless witch hunt.

It reminds me of laws down south in Louisiana. Police would pull people over for speeding and then find drugs and then impound the car. Trouble is, it was lucrative so they began planting drugs in nice cars.

He may well be prosecuted. Or he may turn State's evidence and get an immunity deal.

We'll have to wait and see. Partisan shills like you keep crying "baseless witch hunt" but Mueller keeps getting indictments and guilty pleas.

Originally posted by @no1marauder
He may well be prosecuted. Or he may turn State's evidence and get an immunity deal.

We'll have to wait and see. Partisan shills like you keep crying "baseless witch hunt" but Mueller keeps getting indictments and guilty pleas.

How many times are you going to fall for..."the big one is about to drop" ? LOL...you are beginning to look ridiculous.

Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
no1 just called you less of a liar than Donald Trump. Learn how to take a compliment, sheesh.

A compliment from a liar who refuses to acknowledge their own weakness is not a compliment.

Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
Gee, I wonder why no one is investigating Clinton for money laundering. Could it be... because there's no evidence?

That can be cleared up with two words:

SETH RICH

That is what happens when naïvetè meets machine.

Or, better in one word:

HAITI

Ask anyone in Haiti what they think of the Clintons after they confiscated billions donated for relief specifically designated for the suffering of their country.

And, lest we let it be forgotten:

THE TRAIL OF TEARS

...which follows the Clintons throughout their storied gallop through this brief portion of US history, wherein they raped and pillaged whilst whistling a happy tune.

Originally posted by @no1marauder
Yes, there is a difference between a "meeting" and "collusion" - the meeting was the place where this particular act of collusion took place:

The June 3, 2016, email sent to Donald Trump Jr. could hardly have been more explicit: One of his father’s former Russian business partners had been contacted by a senior Russian government official and was off ...[text shortened]... ey did were crimes and any Americans who knowingly aided these crimes is also criminally liable.

An impressive amount of evidence you have compiled there. Fortunately, there is still a functioning judiciary in America prepared to hear both sides. When trial by the press becomes the norm in America, it will be time to tear it all down and start over.

Originally posted by @moonbus
An impressive amount of evidence you have compiled there. Fortunately, there is still a functioning judiciary in America prepared to hear both sides. When trial by the press becomes the norm in America, it will be time to tear it all down and start over.

(Shrug) I don't need the press to tell me that high ranking officials of a Presidential campaign secretly meeting with agents of a foreign government for the express purpose of getting a candidate elected by handing over information is "collusion".

I doubt the judiciary will ever resolve it as I expect Trump to pardon people like his son and son-in-law when they get indicted. The crisis will have to be resolved politically at that point by impeachment if the rule of law is to mean anything.