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  1. Subscriberno1marauder
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    18 Dec '18 14:39
    @metal-brain said
    What are you talking about? What suspects?
    The ones Strzok was investigating, some of whom have subsequently been convicted and others, like the one living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, are still under investigation.
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    @lundos said
    Read the conclusion of the report.

    Neither the FBI nor the DOJ currently has a policy directive mandating collection and preservation of text messages by ESOC and that the identification and retention of substantive electronic communications is left to the judgment of the individual employee. FBI Policy 0423D guides employees regarding what communications are conside ...[text shortened]... rms employees that they must not use personal electronic devices to communicate about cases.
    Like I said, they have the right to destroy evidence. How convenient for them. Neat policy.
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    @no1marauder said
    The ones Strzok was investigating, some of whom have subsequently been convicted and others, like the one living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, are still under investigation.
    What is your source of information?
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    18 Dec '18 14:441 edit
    @metal-brain said
    Like I said, they have the right to destroy evidence. How convenient for them. Neat policy.
    And what conclusions do you draw from this?
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    18 Dec '18 14:45
    @metal-brain said
    What is your source of information?
    I'm not playing that game anymore; if you are unaware of what Strzok was investigating then you should learn about it before making the worthless speculations you are in this thread.
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    @metal-brain said
    Like I said, they have the right to destroy evidence. How convenient for them. Neat policy.
    Text messages from and to FBI agents from other FBI employees are "evidence" of what exactly?
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    @whodey said
    @Metal-Brain

    Listen, just because Flynn was not read his Miranda rights is no big deal, nor is it a big deal that Trump and company were not notified when they should have been.

    Stop your crying. It's all on the up and up.
    Yes, all suspected criminals should promptly receive written notice in triplicate that law enforcement is investigating them.
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    @no1marauder said
    Text messages from and to FBI agents from other FBI employees are "evidence" of what exactly?
    Criticisms of Trump contained in personal text messages exchanged between Strzok and a colleague.

    Evidence of extreme bias. That is what leads to witch hunts. Wasn't that bias why Mueller was forced to remove Strzok from the Russia investigation?
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    @whodey said
    Yep, technical glitches have become an epidemic, like they did with Hillary and the IRS.

    What are the odds?
    The head of the DOJ when the glitch happened was, and still is, a Trump-appointed Republican.

    Maybe this all a vast conspiracy by Trump against himself.
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    @metal-brain said
    They don't test for glitches before they use it for important stuff?
    Are they incompetent?
    Apparently, they are when Republicans are in charge.
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    @whodey said
    @Metal-Brain

    Listen, just because Flynn was not read his Miranda rights is no big deal, nor is it a big deal that Trump and company were not notified when they should have been.

    Stop your crying. It's all on the up and up.
    Did you hear this on Fox News?

    Just the latest round of lies, disguised as excuses.
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    @whodey said
    Speaking of Strzok, I smell Trump supporters here.

    Say, are there any married women here I can have an affair with who also smell the stench?
    'Keeping Up With the Giulianis'?
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    @metal-brain said
    Criticisms of Trump contained in personal text messages exchanged between Strzok and a colleague.

    Evidence of extreme bias. That is what leads to witch hunts. Wasn't that bias why Mueller was forced to remove Strzok from the Russia investigation?
    No, Mueller had Strzok reassigned to avoid "an appearance of impropriety". There has never been a finding that Strzok''s supposed political views had any effect on his investigative work; he worked at the FBI for more than two decades and was considered one of its best counterintelligence agents.

    His firing for essentially voicing political views that most American share was an outrage. And it was done in direct contervention of established FBI policies:

    Aitan Goelman, Strzok's attorney, said FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich ordered the agent's termination on Friday. Goelman said that the deputy director's decision comes after the head of the office that normally handles disciplinary actions decided Strzok should instead face a demotion and 60-day suspension.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/13/politics/peter-strzok-fired-fbi/index.html

    One can only imagine the damage to the criminal justice system if this ridiculous level of scrutiny of law enforcement officers' personal views was extended to every investigation.
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    @metal-brain said
    Criticisms of Trump contained in personal text messages exchanged between Strzok and a colleague.

    Evidence of extreme bias. That is what leads to witch hunts. Wasn't that bias why Mueller was forced to remove Strzok from the Russia investigation?
    Evidence of extreme bias ?

    Are FBI agents allowed to vote in elections ?
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    @vivify said
    The head of the DOJ when the glitch happened was, and still is, a Trump-appointed Republican.

    Maybe this all a vast conspiracy by Trump against himself.
    Who? What republican? What does that have to do with anything? Why is that even important?
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