You vacillate, as usual, in Episode One/.. Let us refresh our readers. It is so simple. I have diagramed the sentences.
I had said the media reports the info about the $300M. Wildgrass writes this back: " Media ?
Musk said it. No one else."
So, I write back that when the media reported that JFK was shot.... Oswald had (shot him), not the media. Thusly, I have totally deflated his not-point.
But not to be outdone by AvJoe, which he was 😆 , he retorts with this:
""If the media reported that Elon musk said that JFK was shot but there was no video , no eyewitnesses and no body."
This ridiculous word salad cannot be diagrammed, because it is stupid and responds to nothing. Actually our little exchange just above speaks for itself, and I have won this mini-bout.
Wait, don't go. Note how Wildgrass writes just like the TDS crowd, who have no way to turn, they will throw anything out there. Wildgrass threatens to knock Sonhouse off of the leader status.
@AverageJoe1 saidThere is no evidence - none - that verifies elons claims that kids received this $300 million in grants. So the only thing the media can do is regurgitate what musk says.
You vacillate, as usual, in Episode One/.. Let us refresh our readers. It is so simple. I have diagramed the sentences.
I had said the media reports the info about the $300M. Wildgrass writes this back: " Media ?
Musk said it. No one else."
So, I write back that when the media reported that JFK was shot.... Oswald had (shot him), not the media. Thusly, I hav ...[text shortened]... they will throw anything out there. Wildgrass threatens to knock Sonhouse off of the leader status.
For other claims that are verifiable, the media is reporting that more than 70% of it is fake. Completely made up.
https://fortune.com/2025/03/13/doge-saved-federal-government-115-billion-experts-doubt-figures-elon-musk/
@AverageJoe1 saidYou also said the US gave $300 million in aid to Ukraine.
You vacillate, as usual, in Episode One/.. Let us refresh our readers. It is so simple. I have diagramed the sentences.
I had said the media reports the info about the $300M. Wildgrass writes this back: " Media ?
Musk said it. No one else."
So, I write back that when the media reported that JFK was shot.... Oswald had (shot him), not the media. Thusly, I hav ...[text shortened]... they will throw anything out there. Wildgrass threatens to knock Sonhouse off of the leader status.
Why can't you make your psychotic pipe dreams more realistic-sounding by coming up with some other number for them? Why is it always $300 million?
@wildgrass saidI quoted a story, I did not make it up. You were trying to make me look bad, aren’t you. Here is a clipping to show the generality of what happened, the SBA, that would be small business administration to you, had this kind of stuff going on that Musk has discovered.
There is no evidence - none - that verifies elons claims that kids received this $300 million in grants. So the only thing the media can do is regurgitate what musk says.
For other claims that are verifiable, the media is reporting that more than 70% of it is fake. Completely made up.
https://fortune.com/2025/03/13/doge-saved-federal-government-115-billion-experts-doubt-figures-elon-musk/
What is it with you? You don’t want it to be true? That is a liberal approach. What you don’t want it to be. Conservatives see what we see.
See here, little feller. You get so angry
DOGE said it identified that the Small Business Administration (SBA) granted nearly 5,600 loans for $312 million to borrowers whose only listed owner was 11 years old or younger at the time of the loan. The loans were issued in 2020 and 2021 – while the world struggled with the COVID-19 pandemic – and it is unclear what they were used for.
@AverageJoe1 saidI didn't say you made it up. You quoted a story that quoted Musk. There's no evidence that "this kind of stuff going on" is actually going on.
I quoted a story, I did not make it up. You were trying to make me look bad, aren’t you. Here is a clipping to show the generality of what happened, the SBA, that would be small business administration to you, had this kind of stuff going on that Musk has discovered.
What is it with you? You don’t want it to be true? That is a liberal approach. What you don’t want it t ...[text shortened]... – while the world struggled with the COVID-19 pandemic – and it is unclear what they were used for.
As a reminder, Musk also said that millions of 150-year-olds are collecting social security benefits. This claim was easily and quickly determined to be complete garbage. Fake.
Usually things that are true have some tangible basis in reality. In this case, no.
@wildgrass saidLet’s see. Social Security Beenefits’??? Why not be specific … you can only mean money. So to clarify so that I can comment, you will have to say that 150 yr olds are .
I didn't say you made it up. You quoted a story that quoted Musk. There's no evidence that "this kind of stuff going on" is actually going on.
As a reminder, Musk also said that millions of 150-year-olds are collecting social security benefits. This claim was easily and quickly determined to be complete garbage. Fake.
Usually things that are true have some tangible basis in reality. In this case, no.
collecting money
He won’t, everybody. So his post falls flat. I hate it.🫓🫓 Flat As A Flitter.
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@AverageJoe1 saidMusk is using the "sad hot dog" method to cutting government waste. As the saying goes, if you are hungry at 2:00 in the morning at 7-11, a sad-looking hot dog will taste BETTER than any meal from a michelin-rated restaurant. DOGE works pretty much the same way. The audience isn't expecting (or even wanting) any real results at all, only calories for the rage machine.
Let’s see. Social Security Beenefits’??? Why not be specific … you can only mean money. So to clarify so that I can comment, you will have to say that 150 yr olds are .
collecting money
He won’t, everybody. So his post falls flat. I hate it.🫓🫓 Flat As A Flitter.
Thousands of 11 year old millionaires, show yourself!
@wildgrass saidYes, I am as curious as you are, what is with it with the 11-yr olds? I do wish Musk would be more forthcoming,,,,,,I am of the same bent as Marauder, I want to know RIGHT NOW, but for some reason there is some lag time.
Musk is using the "sad hot dog" method to cutting government waste. As the saying goes, if you are hungry at 2:00 in the morning at 7-11, a sad-looking hot dog will taste BETTER than any meal from a michelin-rated restaurant. DOGE works pretty much the same way. The audience isn't expecting (or even wanting) any real results at all, only calories for the rage machine.
Thousands of 11 year old millionaires, show yourself!
You and I differ, in that there is no question in my mind that he is finding a lot of waste etc, I think that you are literally, I assume, saying that there is nothing there.
Do you get it, that until he gets to the end of his investigations, that there is nothing to talk about ? Now, if you wanna geehaw about it, Sonhouse is your man, y'all can speculate until the cows come home. Know up front that Sonhouse absolutely despises your president. Just so you know.....
@AverageJoe1 saidLag time, like a rumor? doge reports it as fact.
Yes, I am as curious as you are, what is with it with the 11-yr olds? I do wish Musk would be more forthcoming,,,,,,I am of the same bent as Marauder, I want to know RIGHT NOW, but for some reason there is some lag time.
You and I differ, in that there is no question in my mind that he is finding a lot of waste etc, I think that you are literally, I assume, saying th ...[text shortened]... s come home. Know up front that Sonhouse absolutely despises your president. Just so you know.....
You started several threads on it now stating it is fact, now you say there is nothing to talk about?
Starting to feel like what's on hunters laptop, going on 5 years now for an answer.
@wildgrass saidI am speaking of the issue raised by you....Where's the beef!!! So, me, too, where is something showing his progress? He has me looking bad, I am going to write Musk a scathing letter.
Lag time, like a rumor? doge reports it as fact.
You started several threads on it now stating it is fact, now you say there is nothing to talk about?
Starting to feel like what's on hunters laptop, going on 5 years now for an answer.
I am defending his findings, (such as what I posted here, the list), but it is not believable by socialists, etc, so I am at a loss. Now, you write back," YeahAJoe, you surely are at a loss!!"
I thought my list had reputable sources, like the SBA reference,,,,are they lying?
@AverageJoe1 saidLet's revisit in a month. Do you think that's enough time for Elon to track down the 2,000 grade school kids who managed to land a small business loan?
I am speaking of the issue raised by you....Where's the beef!!! So, me, too, where is something showing his progress? He has me looking bad, I am going to write Musk a scathing letter.
I am defending his findings, (such as what I posted here, the list), but it is not believable by socialists, etc, so I am at a loss. Now, you write back," YeahAJoe, you surely are at a loss!!"
I thought my list had reputable sources, like the SBA reference,,,,are they lying?
If he is unable to produce any evidence that anything he said is true, maybe them we can call him a liar?
@wildgrass saidIf he lies. Not likely there are actual loans to children, so the interspersing of the ‘names of’ or the ‘ Social Security numbers” of children could be what has emerged in the files of the small business administration, giving them a conduit to nefariously book some loans in certain names and numbers. If that could be what had happened, then it would be fraud of the highest order. So do what Biden would have done, just be patient, take a nap, and we will see what turns up. I cannot believe he would have gotten down the road with this if it were all what you call a lie. All he knows is success, and so it is not likely he would have taken this on if he didn’t see the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
Let's revisit in a month. Do you think that's enough time for Elon to track down the 2,000 grade school kids who managed to land a small business loan?
If he is unable to produce any evidence that anything he said is true, maybe them we can call him a liar?
So, we’ll see what happens. (is this where I put the word “right’ with a question mark?)
Let’s say for fun that the SBA has indeed committed great fraudulent things, where the names of children were all involved in the fraud. I will say I won. You will say no you did not because there are no actual loans made to the children.
If you do, I will come whip you. (how big ‘an ole boy are you?)
@AverageJoe1 saidHere's the direct quote from DOGE. "In 2020-2021, SBA granted 5,593 loans for $312M to borrowers whose only listed owner was 11 years old or younger at the time of the loan."
If he lies. Not likely there are actual loans to children, so the interspersing of the ‘names of’ or the ‘ Social Security numbers” of children could be what has emerged in the files of the small business administration, giving them a conduit to nefariously book some loans in certain names and numbers. If that could be what had happened, then it would be fraud of the hig ...[text shortened]... ainbow.
So, we’ll see what happens. (is this where I put the word “right’ with a question mark?)
These are very specific numbers. However, no proof was provided even though it would be super simple to share this info. If in one months time there is no evidence supporting this statement, then we can call them liars?
@wildgrass saidI had good credit in my business, was granted loans, did not follow through and take the money available to me. So, given that, did the kids get the money? Not being contentious, we leave that to Marauder, but you leave out some facts. I only reported what I read and it did not say if the kids got the money.
Here's the direct quote from DOGE. "In 2020-2021, SBA granted 5,593 loans for $312M to borrowers whose only listed owner was 11 years old or younger at the time of the loan."
These are very specific numbers. However, no proof was provided even though it would be super simple to share this info. If in one months time there is no evidence supporting this statement, then we can call them liars?
So you are asking me if you can change horses and say that we have enough to go on that you can claim a win? Did you say that? A lib, are you?
I would say not in 1 months time, I would say after all the evidence is in. Do you see now how flaky you liberals are? A true lib, writing to me, of all people. Have you ever received a check, other than social security , from the US government?