https://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/NPR_PBS-News_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_202407101544.pdf
There seems to be this bizarre phenomenon where whenever a candidate had something really bad happen, they first lose a couple of points, but then there's a bit of a backlash, where the polled people say "the media is jumping on they guy. F the media!" When Trump was convicted, the same thing happened.
I'm guessing that the race, blow around as it might, will settle back into the shape it was: Trump a slight favorite, at least until the Dem convention. Then we'll see.
I still think the Dems are nuts if they don't force Biden out and that another collapse in the second debate or on the campaign trail, is a real risk.
But hey, they're not asking me.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidMarist has been one of the most accurate pollsters over the last few cycles.
Haha NPR. like there's no bias there.
@sh76 saidThese polls don't mean much now. Check in with them about October 1st for a more accurate view.
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/NPR_PBS-News_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_202407101544.pdf
There seems to be this bizarre phenomenon where whenever a candidate had something really bad happen, they first lose a couple of points, but then there's a bit of a backlash, where the polled people say "the media is jumping on they guy. F the media!" When Tr ...[text shortened]... se in the second debate or on the campaign trail, is a real risk.
But hey, they're not asking me.
The forced voicing of PBS hosts, the worst being Ayesha Rasco and then the Fresh Air people, is just too difficult to listen to. They are prob good subjects and programs, but are we children, being taught how we should talk? It is creepy.
It is not too much to ask these people just to talk like we were sitting and having that cuppa coffee. I guarantee you they do not talk like that in real life.
@sh76 saidMaybe they thought about Kamala and decided a vote for Biden is a vote for Kamala when Joe cannot function properly and resigns the presidency so they can live with it.
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/NPR_PBS-News_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_202407101544.pdf
There seems to be this bizarre phenomenon where whenever a candidate had something really bad happen, they first lose a couple of points, but then there's a bit of a backlash, where the polled people say "the media is jumping on they guy. F the media!" When Tr ...[text shortened]... se in the second debate or on the campaign trail, is a real risk.
But hey, they're not asking me.
Then again, Joe seems too stubborn for that so far so maybe he would have to be impeached. Nobody has been impeached for dementia before that I am aware of, but there is always a first time.
I saw the Marist poll yesterday, and it is the only poll I've seen in the last skad that I looked at where Biden was ahead.
All I can say is, @No1Marauder, If Biden is ahead, why are the democrats worried to death???
@Earl-of-Trumps saidWith a few exceptions, almost all polls are showing a race within the margin of error IF the election was held on the date the survey group was questioned.
I saw the Marist poll yesterday, and it is the only poll I've seen in the last skad that I looked at where Biden was ahead.
All I can say is, @No1Marauder, If Biden is ahead, why are the democrats worried to death???
Of course, Democrats are concerned about a close race; they don't have the luxury of losing one and then screaming and crying they really won in a landslide that a certain con man does.
@no1marauder saidI care more about the electoral vote. and I will get a collection of polls to post tonight. Later.
With a few exceptions, almost all polls are showing a race within the margin of error IF the election was held on the date the survey group was questioned.
@no1marauder saidlying is all you know isn’t it?
With a few exceptions, almost all polls are showing a race within the margin of error IF the election was held on the date the survey group was questioned.
Of course, Democrats are concerned about a close race; they don't have the luxury of losing one and then screaming and crying they really won in a landslide that a certain con man does.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/aug/21/stolen-rigged-and-illegitimate-democrats-long-hist/
New York Times: Here are poll results and have been updated thru July 12
Marist: Biden +2 (Trump +1 when 3rd party candidates are included)
Ipsos:: EVEN
Pew Research Center Trump +3
The New York Times/Siena College poll Trump +6
CNN/SSRS and Wall Street Journal polls Trump +6
and others, that all but 1 favor Trump, and 1 tie.
Donald J. Trump’s lead in the national polls has grown since the debate, and he’s ahead by even more in most of the battleground states likely to decide the Electoral College. The New York Times/Siena College poll showed Trump up by six points among likely voters, and CNN/SSRS and Wall Street Journal polls showed Trump up six among registered voters. The post-debate polls are not uniformly in Trump’s favor, however: On Friday, NPR/PBS/Marist found President Biden with a two-point lead nationally. Updated July 12
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president.html
It's a completely different story, isn't it.
@sh76 saidOr maybe your poll source is lying. Come on dude. Think about it.
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/NPR_PBS-News_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_202407101544.pdf
There seems to be this bizarre phenomenon where whenever a candidate had something really bad happen, they first lose a couple of points, but then there's a bit of a backlash, where the polled people say "the media is jumping on they guy. F the media!" When Tr ...[text shortened]... se in the second debate or on the campaign trail, is a real risk.
But hey, they're not asking me.
5 more congressmen came out after Biden's press conference and called for racial jungle Joe to step down. Are they doing that because they think he can win?
Your poll source is BS. Some pollsters lie. Few of them ever have the same numbers. You don't think pollsters are politically biased and are trying to get the results they would prefer? Heck, some scientists do that. You don't think pollsters do it?
Some scientists tried to prove white people had a larger cranium size than other races and they got the results they wanted, the wrong results. There is no general difference in cranium size in different races. Even if there was Einstein's brain was smaller than average.
All research in cranium size was 100% junk science from beginning to end. Mostly driven by racism. Racism is a lot like political bias, it is a type of mental illness.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidAs I already pointed out in the other thread, the aggregates show a slight increase in Trump's lead in the immediate aftermath of the debate as expected. More recent polls are showing that may have dissipated by now.
New York Times: Here are poll results and have been updated thru July 12
Marist: Biden +2 (Trump +1 when 3rd party candidates are included)
Ipsos:: EVEN
Pew Research Center Trump +3
The New York Times/Siena College poll Trump +6
CNN/SSRS and Wall Street Journal polls Trump +6
and others, that all but 1 favor Trump, and 1 tie.
[b]Donald J. Trump’s ...[text shortened]... interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president.html
It's a completely different story, isn't it.
BTW, only one pollster in the last week of the 2022 Arizona Governor's race had Kari Lake losing. Can you guess who that was? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Arizona_gubernatorial_election