Newtown massacre and religion
17 Dec '12 15:35Ah shucks, someone left the stable door open!
17 Dec '12 15:37Originally posted by KazetNagorraWhat is your theory then?
I can go to bed at night without locking my door. I guess your brand of christianity is really popular here (hint: it's not).
I must commend you whodey, out of all the absurd things you have posted on this forum, a causal link between lack of prayer in schools and mass shootings must rank way up there in ridiculousness.
17 Dec '12 15:40Originally posted by Proper KnobThere is a small decline in households with guns percentage-wise, and as you point out more guns owned by those who do own them.
I thought the data showed that over the last 30 years the number of gun owners and percentage of households with guns had declined?!
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/31/politics/gun-ownership-declining/index.html?iref=allsearch
Curiously the number of guns owned has gone up.
17 Dec '12 15:44Originally posted by Proper KnobA lot of it lies in the wall to wall coverage criminal events get in our news media. If it bleeds, it leads. This was of course true of Newspapers, but they were published daily. The TV and radio blare this stuff 24/7, and when you tire of that there is always the internet.
The question is why do people not feel safer? It's interesting that in the UK, crime; and pretty much all crime, is on the decrease and is at it's lowest rate for 10 years or more. Yet in surveys where people are asked about their perception of crime they think exactly the opposite. Crime is going down yet they think things are getting worse.
17 Dec '12 15:48Originally posted by whodeyAbout the increasing prevalence of mass shootings? I don't think extreme exceptional events initiated by loony people reflect on a society in general, really. Perhaps the increased prevalence is partially due to increased media exposure which causes suicidal crazy people to be more likely to go out with a "bang".
What is your theory then?
17 Dec '12 16:303 editsOriginally posted by KazetNagorraBen Franklin once wrote, "The Constitution is likely to be well administered for a coarse of years, and can only end in despotism as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become corrupt as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other".
About the increasing prevalence of mass shootings? I don't think extreme exceptional events initiated by loony people reflect on a society in general, really. Perhaps the increased prevalence is partially due to increased media exposure which causes suicidal crazy people to be more likely to go out with a "bang".
17 Dec '12 16:36Originally posted by whodeyThe amount of laws itself has little bearing on "liberty". Some laws are not or only barely enforced, applicable in very limited cases or simply obsolete. But what does your story have to do with mass shootings?
Ben Franklin once wrote, "The Constitution is likely to be well administered for a coarse of years, and can only end in despotism as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become corrupt as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other".
Take any perfect form of government or any perfect ideology for that matter, and give it t ...[text shortened]... s last year. Pretty soon we may feel the need to hire private body gaurds to guard our homes.
17 Dec '12 16:55Originally posted by KazetNagorraGive an example of a law that does not infringe upon ones liberty.
The amount of laws itself has little bearing on "liberty". Some laws are not or only barely enforced, applicable in very limited cases or simply obsolete. But what does your story have to do with mass shootings?
17 Dec '12 17:56Originally posted by sh76So religion for leftists is simply a thing of convenience. That's the conclusion that I reached while watching the news coverage of the event. All of a sudden churches have a place of respect, but only when we are mourning the dead. Hypocrites one and all.
As soon as Presdient Obama started quoting scripture last night I turned on the mute button and waited for the Pats-SF game to come back. Wake me up when we get to policy discussion. I don't care what you think God thinks about the wanton murder of children.
Anyway, I noticed a cartoon making the rounds on Facebook of a bunch of children in a classroom in th ...[text shortened]... l, the vast majority of independent'e developed societies developed some sort of religion.
17 Dec '12 18:11Originally posted by sh76People often turn to religion in tragic times, which is why the US military provides chaplains. Since the large majority of military members are Christian the vast majority of Chaplains are of some Christian denomination.
As soon as Presdient Obama started quoting scripture last night I turned on the mute button and waited for the Pats-SF game to come back. Wake me up when we get to policy discussion. I don't care what you think God thinks about the wanton murder of children.
Anyway, I noticed a cartoon making the rounds on Facebook of a bunch of children in a classroom in th ...[text shortened]... l, the vast majority of independent'e developed societies developed some sort of religion.
17 Dec '12 18:19Originally posted by whodeyThe irony here is that you almost revere the founding fathers (who in many cases adamantly disagreed with each other) almost the point of being a religion.
Give an example of a law that does not infringe upon ones liberty.
I would like to provide another favorite quote of mine by the Father of the Contitution, James Madison.
"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all our mankind for self government; upon the ca ...[text shortened]... control ourselves to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments".
Silly old fart.
17 Dec '12 18:23
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