Originally posted by TerrierJack We'll just have to listen to you whine about it, huh?
Actually, I think you'd do more good in uniform. I gather from previous conversations that you have very few responsibilities and are young. A perfect candidate! My brother spent 3 years in Vietnam (really Laos and Cambodia) because he didn't want another to have to take his place. My father did ...[text shortened]... you're not willing to repay such sacrifice should I even waste my time following your links?
Originally posted by Barts Ok, question time here ? Are you serious with this, because then I'd be willing to explain why that would be a bad plan, if not, troll on.
I would be in favour of community service for people on unemployment benefits though.
and those on welfare.....and those receiving gov subsidies.....and those defaulting on student loans.....and those defaulting on fanny mae/freddie mac loans.......and those in jail.....and those who owe parking tickets
Let's keep it simple and assume that now every person in the private sector pays for one public sector employee and that under your system everyone would work half-time in government, then we'd have.
Double the training, double the background checks. Instead of knowing what you did and what you still have to do you constantly need to brief and be briefed by the other half-timer. More paperwork to keep track of all the extra employees. All the specialized education for private sector jobs that is unused when working your government hours, etc... And double these problems as the private sector will face the same difficulties.
Originally posted by utherpendragon When did you serve spanky?
I'll freely admit that I did not. My father said he had already given 4 of his sons and almost 40 years of his life so he asked me not to do it. (But I've never fussed about paying taxes because I understand that some make a far greater sacrifice.)
Originally posted by TerrierJack I'll freely admit that I did not. My father said he had already given 4 of his sons and almost 40 years of his life so he asked me not to do it. (But I've never fussed about paying taxes because I understand that some make a far greater sacrifice.)
You lost four brothers to war? Wow. I'm sorry to hear that.
Originally posted by AThousandYoung You lost four brothers to war? Wow. I'm sorry to hear that.
They are not all dead. I wasn't saying that. But those who do actually serve in a war should know what I'm talking about when I say that even the survivors pay a high price. As my father said, "No one hates war more than a real soldier because he knows what it is." As I said, I don't claim that understanding or that sacrifice for myself but I would sure have loved to have my father and my brothers live longer.
At least now I know where the self righteous indignation comes from. Self righteous because you claim your family's honors and indignation because you are a socialist.
why not drop tax rates by 50 or 70 pct, and make a tax of a certain number of hours of each adult to be donated to the common good? picking weeds, shining the statue of General Doworthy, trimming (ok, hacking) down the legal codes, monitoring border cameras, etc., etc.?
why should Bill Gates get off with just donating money? he's got too much of it, it's easy for him!
The purpose of taxes is two fold: Raise money for the government to spend and to manage the economy. Having people work to pay off their taxes in lieu of money would accomplish neither of these functions.
Originally posted by zeeblebot income tax is a personal tax on individual labor.
what justification is there for not making it apply to every adult?
why not drop tax rates by 50 or 70 pct, and make a tax of a certain number of hours of each adult to be donated to the common good? picking weeds, shining the statue of General Doworthy, trimming (ok, hacking) down the legal codes, m ...[text shortened]... d Bill Gates get off with just donating money? he's got too much of it, it's easy for him! ðŸ˜
Originally posted by zeeblebot and, did you not read the part about "some of"? did i ever say people should be able to pay all of their tax liability in labor?
...sighs...I despair when you wisdom and intent is not apreciated.
Originally posted by Barts Let's keep it simple and assume that now every person in the private sector pays for one public sector employee and that under your system everyone would work half-time in government, then we'd have.
Double the training, double the background checks. Instead of knowing what you did and what you still have to do you constantly need to brief and be briefed by ...[text shortened]... hours, etc... And double these problems as the private sector will face the same difficulties.
how much training do you need for some of these jobs?
background checks are very automated now.
and part of the purpose is to devalue labor claimed by the government, by providing most of it for free. there'd be less incentive to featherbed the payrolls and huge savings to the non-public taxpayer.
where are the govt layoffs to match the recession? besides in entities that can't legally practice deficit spending?
Originally posted by zeeblebot how much training do you need for some of these jobs?
background checks are very automated now.
and part of the purpose is to devalue labor claimed by the government, by providing most of it for free. there'd be less incentive to featherbed the payrolls and huge savings to the non-public taxpayer.
where are the govt layoffs to match the recessi ...[text shortened]... pending?
no minimum income tax
27 Sep '10 20:22
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