Let's banter on this one. One we will all agree on, I am sure. How could you not find hypocrisy, or whatever the hell it is, with the USA allowing hundreds of thousands, millions, of immigrants in here with NO papers of any nature?........Yet, do not allow known tennis greats in if they do not show proof of vaccination?
"The USA Government bars unvaccinated non-citizens from the country".
Why the exception for the illegals? Let us have an adult conversation, no need for personal barbs?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/20/us-open-novak-djokovic-covid-19-vaccine-tennis
18 Aug 22
@AverageJoe1
Tennis stars, you mean like the AUSTRALIAN judgement against Djoker?
I guess you got your countries confused.
@sonhouse saidDon’t ask Joe to read past a headline that he likes the look of, he won’t understand the small print even though he’s a borderline genius investor and legal lecturer who teaches ethics as a side line 😂😂
@AverageJoe1
Tennis stars, you mean like the AUSTRALIAN judgement against Djoker?
I guess you got your countries confused.
18 Aug 22
@sonhouse saidSettle, now, Sonhouse. I detect a little animosity towards AvJoe? All I know is what I read. And this is not about tennis, Sonhouse, expand your dissonate-chorded mind. It is about the very point of this article, to wit:
@AverageJoe1
Tennis stars, you mean like the AUSTRALIAN judgement against Djoker?
I guess you got your countries confused.
"The US government requires non-citizens to be fully vaccinated against coronavirus to enter the country". Why can Mexicans and Yemenites enter the country with no such proof, but tennis players cannot?
Now you see the issue. It is about the USA treating one group different than another. It is not about tennis per se.
Whew.
18 Aug 22
@kevcvs57 saidYou gettin personal too? Help!!
Don’t ask Joe to read past a headline that he likes the look of, he won’t understand the small print even though he’s a borderline genius investor and legal lecturer who teaches ethics as a side line 😂😂
OK, just for you. (remember, this issue is not about tennis...it is about your pitiful government)
"The USA government bars unvaccinated non-citizens from entering the country". This is quoted in the attached article/link.
This sentence is past the headline, so maybe you are the one who is not reading past the headline. Oh gosh, I just got personal! Personal is all you people know , Suzianne being the expert.
18 Aug 22
Your govt is letting professionals have their student loans forgiven. FORTY percent of these people getting their loans erased are professionals, making money hand over fist. It allows them to get even farther out in the world of the haves and have-nots.
Your government. Maybe that is the issue? No Mexican street people kept out of USA, but Tennis players are??
18 Aug 22
@averagejoe1 saidWell, if people are entering a country illegally, then the government doesn’t know about it. So they can’t check if they’re vaccinated or not.
Let's banter on this one. One we will all agree on, I am sure. How could you not find hypocrisy, or whatever the hell it is, with the USA allowing hundreds of thousands, millions, of immigrants in here with NO papers of any nature?........Yet, do not allow known tennis greats in if they do not show proof of vaccination?
"The USA Government bars unvaccinated non-citize ...[text shortened]... s?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/20/us-open-novak-djokovic-covid-19-vaccine-tennis
If people are entering as refugees, there are international treaties to adhere to. And probably some form of quarantine until vaccinated (or in the case of Corona, until vaccinated or proven not to have the disease).
People coming into a country in an ordinary way are checkable and can be asked to adhere to the laws of the country.
18 Aug 22
@shavixmir saidRefugee: Alien escaping War, persecution or National Disaster. A nice answer, Shav, but we are not talking about refugees. And our government DOES know about migrants entering our country illegally, they could watch the FOX news cameras/drones and scoop them all up. So, you are wrong, they can indeed 'check'. And, turn them around if not vaccinated. Don't say we could just vaccinate them at the border, because I dont want to pay for it. We have enough to pay for with our poor people.
Well, if people are entering a country illegally, then the government doesn’t know about it. So they can’t check if they’re vaccinated or not.
If people are entering as refugees, there are international treaties to adhere to. And probably some form of quarantine until vaccinated (or in the case of Corona, until vaccinated or proven not to have the disease).
People com ...[text shortened]... to a country in an ordinary way are checkable and can be asked to adhere to the laws of the country.
Next para says that we have to adhere to international treaties regarding refugees. No argument there,, you are correct.
Your last paragraph is also correct, of course. But isn't that what we are talking about?? The 'ordinary' way? The migrants are not the ordinary way.
18 Aug 22
@averagejoe1 saidIf the government knows they’re arriving… how can it be illegal?
Refugee: Alien escaping War, persecution or National Disaster. A nice answer, Shav, but we are not talking about refugees. And our government DOES know about migrants entering our country illegally, they could watch the FOX news cameras/drones and scoop them all up. So, you are wrong, they can indeed 'check'. And, turn them around if not vaccinated. Don't say we cou ...[text shortened]... t isn't that what we are talking about?? The 'ordinary' way? The migrants are not the ordinary way.
18 Aug 22
@averagejoe1 saidallowing hundreds of thousands, millions, of immigrants in here with NO papers of any nature?
Let's banter on this one. One we will all agree on, I am sure. How could you not find hypocrisy, or whatever the hell it is, with the USA allowing hundreds of thousands, millions, of immigrants in here with NO papers of any nature?........Yet, do not allow known tennis greats in if they do not show proof of vaccination?
"The USA Government bars unvaccinated non-citize ...[text shortened]... s?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/20/us-open-novak-djokovic-covid-19-vaccine-tennis
Dear Joe - You don't have a clue who is in this country illegally and who isn't. you're simply pulling numbers out of the air.
And "No" it's not one we will all agree on. 🙄
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@averagejoe1 saidSHHH...libs think democrats are on their side and hate the wealthy
Your govt is letting professionals have their student loans forgiven. FORTY percent of these people getting their loans erased are professionals, making money hand over fist. It allows them to get even farther out in the world of the haves and have-nots.
Your government. Maybe that is the issue? No Mexican street people kept out of USA, but Tennis players are??
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18 Aug 22
@shavixmir saidwhat a stupid question!
If the government knows they’re arriving… how can it be illegal?
@AverageJoe1
So who do you think are being let in without vax? And why are you picking out tennis players? Because of the Australian incident? Or do you actually know what the Ausie deal was? When you say Mexicans enter the country without vax are you saying those with a visa or work permit?
18 Aug 22
@kevcvs57 saidTut tut. Joe might have vision problems that prevent him from reading print smaller than the headlines of trashy tabloids.
Don’t ask Joe to read past a headline that he likes the look of, he won’t understand the small print even though he’s a borderline genius investor and legal lecturer who teaches ethics as a side line 😂😂
18 Aug 22
@averagejoe1 saidYou can't be a swaggering prat nine-tenths of the time on a forum and then expect folks to flip a switch and play nice with you on demand.
Settle, now, Sonhouse. I detect a little animosity towards AvJoe? All I know is what I read. And this is not about tennis, Sonhouse, expand your dissonate-chorded mind. It is about the very point of this article, to wit:
"The US government requires non-citizens to be fully vaccinated against coronavirus to enter the country". Why can Mexicans and Yemenites enter the ...[text shortened]... about the USA treating one group different than another. It is not about tennis per se.
Whew.