NY law: Replace Mother and Father with “Gestating Parents” in court procedures

@Suzianne said
You often call a pregnant woman an "expectant parent". Don't you realize that "gestating" is the same as "expecting"?

It's really hard dealing with the 50% of the population who are dumber than dirt.

You have a cognitive mental condition that should keep you from voting in our great country. It should be akin to going out in public as a psychopath. You (and y ...[text shortened]... this country. "Voting while stupid" needs to be an equivalent crime as "driving while intoxicated".

Biological process vs relationship to the child.
Why don’t you write about that?!?! 😆

Pitiful. I think your boss is looking for you. Hide your phone!!!!

@Suzianne said
You often call a pregnant woman an "expectant parent". Don't you realize that "gestating" is the same as "expecting"?

It's really hard dealing with the 50% of the population who are dumber than dirt.

You have a cognitive mental condition that should keep you from voting in our great country. It should be akin to going out in public as a psychopath. You (and y ...[text shortened]... this country. "Voting while stupid" needs to be an equivalent crime as "driving while intoxicated".

Here is a new topic for you. Compare all three speeches given by Donald Trump yesterday with what Kamala might have said at the same moment. Especially when she was standing under those four white men at Mount Rushmore.
Wow, that would have been a tough one for Kamala. Note that it was not so tough for Trump. So pick one of them for president.!!!!!!

@AverageJoe1 said
Biological process vs relationship to the child.
Why don’t you write about that?!?! 😆

Pitiful. I think your boss is looking for you. Hide your phone!!!!

Same thing, pinhead.

Except for stepchildren or adoptions. In these cases, the child may still call you "mom" even though you are not her mother. (This choice is best left up to the children, btw.) But if you have a child, you are it's mother. End of story.

Clearly, "gestating parent" is used to specify from "non-gestating parent".

"Mother" versus "father". I have no clue why this is so hard for you.

@AverageJoe1 said
Here is a new topic for you. Compare all three speeches given by Donald Trump yesterday with what Kamala might have said at the same moment. Especially when she was standing under those four white men at Mount Rushmore.
Wow, that would have been a tough one for Kamala. Note that it was not so tough for Trump. So pick one of them for president.!!!!!!

Idiotic comparison.

Trump doesn't even know what he's saying most of the day.

"Islamic Republic of Japan"? What??





And don't bother me with soporifics like "what Kamala might have said".

@AverageJoe1 said
Get this.
If a form says mother, its reader immediately, due to YEARS OF FAMILIARITY with our ingrained muscle-memory language, know without even thinking who is who in the scenario.
Follow me here.

So, if you say gestating parent (Which is patently wrong on its face, in that there is no baby to be a parent of ), if you say gestating parent, the person you say ...[text shortened]... a ONE STEP processing in the brain is now a 2-step process.

What is wrong with your people????🤬😱

Mothers ARE "gestating parents" or "parents who gestate".

It's English, man. Why are you having such a hard time with it?

Maybe because you never passed third grade English.

@Suzianne said
Same thing, pinhead.

Except for stepchildren or adoptions. In these cases, the child may still call you "mom" even though you are not her mother. (This choice is best left up to the children, btw.) But if you have a child, you are it's mother. End of story.

Clearly, "gestating parent" is used to specify from "non-gestating parent".

"Mother" versus "father". I have no clue why this is so hard for you.

OHHHHHHHHH,,,,you and your one-track friends consider the word in a sexual context. I don't, I use it a lot on the Forum so emphsaize how, well, queer with your treatments of life you all are. Same as woke to me. Are people sexually queer anymore, I do not even know, you are all so MANY things. It would be queer if you showed up as a boy for work today, there is nothing sexual about it.
Geez.

This may help. (so all this time you thought I meant sexual when I said queer?!?)


a
: differing in some way from what is usual or normal : ODD, STRANGE, WEIRD
"How queer it seems," Alice said to herself, "to be going messages for a rabbit!"
—Lewis Carroll
The endless and numberless avenues of bewildering pine woods gave him a queer feeling that he was driving through the countless corridors of a dream.
—G. K. Chesterton
b
: ECCENTRIC, UNCONVENTIONAL
… they go to dinner at the apartment of two other little librarians, where they discuss the queer characters that come into the library every day …

@Suzianne said
Idiotic comparison.

Trump doesn't even know what he's saying most of the day.

"Islamic Republic of Japan"? What??





And don't bother me with soporifics like "what Kamala might have said".

Joe wins another. And also on my answer to you defining queer.

@Suzianne said
Mothers ARE "gestating parents" or "parents who gestate".

It's English, man. Why are you having such a hard time with it?

Maybe because you never passed third grade English.

No, they are not parents if the baby is not born. Add to that, the embryo is yet an embryo or whatever you and Sonhouse call the embryo or fetus. So, one is not a parent of a fetus.
But if you go along with Cliff, e.g., normal people, it is a baby in the womb. Pick one, Suzianne. But in either event, neither the mother, nor the father, can be a parent ./..........yet.

My proof is here: " 1. a : one that begets or brings forth offspring JUST BECAME PARENTS of twins b : a person who brings up and cares for another foster parents." Suzianne....'Just Became Parents". Zero in on the word'Just". \
So, just became. Did NOT become prior to the birth, she became when it was born.

Thanks for letting me clear this up. That is what RHP pays me for.

@Suzianne said
Mothers ARE "gestating parents" or "parents who gestate".

It's English, man. Why are you having such a hard time with it?

Maybe because you never passed third grade English.

I can just hear the kid now...hey gestating person I need lunch...

My God you people are lunatics

@Mott-The-Hoople said
I can just hear the kid now...hey gestating person I need lunch...

My God you people are lunatics

Do kids often ask this during family court proceedings?

@Mott-The-Hoople said
I can just hear the kid now...hey gestating person I need lunch...

My God you people are lunatics

This isn't even "a thing".

Why do you people make sh-- up?

@AverageJoe1 said
No, they are not parents if the baby is not born. Add to that, the embryo is yet an embryo or whatever you and Sonhouse call the embryo or fetus. So, one is not a parent of a fetus.
But if you go along with Cliff, e.g., normal people, it is a baby in the womb. Pick one, Suzianne. But in either event, neither the mother, nor the father, can be a parent ./......... ...[text shortened]... e became when it was born.

Thanks for letting me clear this up. That is what RHP pays me for.

The status of such offspring doesn't even matter. It doesn't change what you call them. It doesn't change what the law calls them.

Even you must admit, even after making sh-- like this up, that someone who is pregnant (regardless of outcome) is a "gestating parent", or an "expectant parent".

You go ahead and tell the parents of a stillborn child that they "were never parents". If you said that to them in my presence, I would punch you in the mouth.

And you would deserve it.

@AverageJoe1 said
OHHHHHHHHH,,,,you and your one-track friends consider the word in a sexual context. I don't, I use it a lot on the Forum so emphsaize how, well, queer with your treatments of life you all are. Same as woke to me. Are people sexually queer anymore, I do not even know, you are all so MANY things. It would be queer if you showed up as a boy for work today, there is not ...[text shortened]... er little librarians, where they discuss the queer characters that come into the library every day …

Where did this even come from?

I wouldn't call you "queer".

Weird, bizarre, maybe even "F-ed up".

But never queer.

@Suzianne said
The status of such offspring doesn't even matter. It doesn't change what you call them. It doesn't change what the law calls them.

Even you must admit, even after making sh-- like this up, that someone who is pregnant (regardless of outcome) is a "gestating parent", or an "expectant parent".

You go ahead and tell the parents of a stillborn child that they "were never ...[text shortened]... f you said that to them in my presence, I would punch you in the mouth.

And you would deserve it.

I follow your post, I would say no such thing to parents of child that does not survive childbirth. Why would you punch me? What have I done wrong? A good topic, but i would want you to share the limelight.

@Suzianne said
Where did this even come from?

I wouldn't call you "queer".

Weird, bizarre, maybe even "F-ed up".

But never queer.

The word queer existed in the english language for centuries before it became associated with sexual orientation. It’s traditional meaning is simply strange, odd, unusual, or out of the ordinary. That’s exactly how I used it I wasn’t referring to anyone’s sexualitygees . You ignore both the context and the long-established dictionary definition of the word.
It has many definitions. Get a grip.