17 Apr 12
Are speculators really the problem or are they convenient scapegoats?
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/4-gas-no-justification-high-prices-says-fmr-160209651.html
How much does supply and demand affect the price of oil and refined fuel these days and what is the cause of it?
18 Apr 12
Originally posted by Metal BrainThey are really the problem. Thanks for asking.
Are speculators really the problem or are they convenient scapegoats?
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/4-gas-no-justification-high-prices-says-fmr-160209651.html
How much does supply and demand affect the price of oil and refined fuel these days and what is the cause of it?
18 Apr 12
Originally posted by rwingettAre you sure it is not because the Dollar and other currencies are losing value?
They are really the problem. Thanks for asking.
If speculators really are the problem, can the Obama administration do anything meaningful about it?
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/president-obama-targets-oil-speculators-another-election-ploy-173329898.html
Is this change you can believe in?
18 Apr 12
Originally posted by Metal BrainObama can't do anything as long as the filibuster exists.
Are you sure it is not because the Dollar and other currencies are losing value?
If speculators really are the problem, can the Obama administration do anything meaningful about it?
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/president-obama-targets-oil-speculators-another-election-ploy-173329898.html
Is this change you can believe in?
18 Apr 12
Originally posted by rwingettThey used a parliamentary maneuver to avoid the filibuster on the healthcare bill. If they really really want something done, there are ways to do it.
Obama can't do anything as long as the filibuster exists.
Besides, it would be politically very difficult for the GOP to filibuster a measure that would be aimed at lowering the price of gas (which is going to be a huge GOP talking point in the election cycle).
In any case, if Obama is really so tied down by the fact that the Dems don't have 60 seats in the Senate as to be totally ineffective, then maybe it's time to get someone else in there to give it a shot. It's not like the Dems have any possibility at all of getting a filibuster-proof 60 seats in the Senate in this year's election.
18 Apr 12
Originally posted by sh76It's not like the Congress ever has a chance of working properly again, which is one of the causes propelling us toward a crisis of historical proportions.
They used a parliamentary maneuver to avoid the filibuster on the healthcare bill. If they really really want something done, there are ways to do it.
Besides, it would be politically very difficult for the GOP to filibuster a measure that would be aimed at lowering the price of gas (which is going to be a huge GOP talking point in the election cycle).
In ...[text shortened]... ibility at all of getting a filibuster-proof 60 seats in the Senate in this year's election.
19 Apr 12
Originally posted by Metal BrainSpeculators do what the name implies, they speculate. They basically bet on the future price of commodities. Their bets are on the market, and the reaction to market forces. Actually, if anything their bets, their wins and losses tend to flatten out the actual peaks and valleys of the market. Saying or implying the futures traders control or force the market one way or the other is like saying betters at the Kentucky derby determine the winner, and how fast the race will be run.
Are speculators really the problem or are they convenient scapegoats?
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/4-gas-no-justification-high-prices-says-fmr-160209651.html
How much does supply and demand affect the price of oil and refined fuel these days and what is the cause of it?
What is regulated, and enforced in futures trading is insider information, which collusion would harm some speculators in favor of others. Even insider trading would have no effect on overall prices, only who made money on the futures trades.
If anyone has another explanation, I eagerly await hearing it. Too many otherwise intelligent people hear speculators maligned and go along without even thinking about how they could be involved in forcing gasoline prices higher.
19 Apr 12
Originally posted by SleepyguyDo you seriously think that would have any impact on gas prices, except perhaps to raise them? Generally more regulation does raise costs and prices, and even price controls have devastating effects as we can remember who lived through price controls in the Nixon era.
All he has to do is wait for them to go to lunch and make a "recess" appointment of a new oil speculation czar.
19 Apr 12
Originally posted by sh76I like your thought that if he can't do anything without a majority in both houses it is an admission of incompetence.
They used a parliamentary maneuver to avoid the filibuster on the healthcare bill. If they really really want something done, there are ways to do it.
Besides, it would be politically very difficult for the GOP to filibuster a measure that would be aimed at lowering the price of gas (which is going to be a huge GOP talking point in the election cycle).
In ...[text shortened]... ibility at all of getting a filibuster-proof 60 seats in the Senate in this year's election.
Few Presidents have enjoyed such majorities, and somehow they managed to do necessary things.
19 Apr 12
Originally posted by normbenignReagan managed to go over Tip O'Neil's head and got Dems to support his agenda.
I like your thought that if he can't do anything without a majority in both houses it is an admission of incompetence.
Few Presidents have enjoyed such majorities, and somehow they managed to do necessary things.
There's no inherent reason the Obama administration could not have peeled off an Olympia Snowe or Susan Collins or Scott Brown. Is the political climate different? Perhaps, but there's no guarantee that another administration could not in the future cajole members of the other party to work with them.
19 Apr 12
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Originally posted by normbenignI think what is being implied is that speculators are crossing the line into manipulation and are not merely speculators anymore.
Speculators do what the name implies, they speculate. They basically bet on the future price of commodities. Their bets are on the market, and the reaction to market forces. Actually, if anything their bets, their wins and losses tend to flatten out the actual peaks and valleys of the market. Saying or implying the futures traders control or force the ...[text shortened]... along without even thinking about how they could be involved in forcing gasoline prices higher.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=8131
19 Apr 12
Originally posted by sh76Obstructionism should not be rewarded.
Reagan managed to go over Tip O'Neil's head and got Dems to support his agenda.
There's no inherent reason the Obama administration could not have peeled off an Olympia Snowe or Susan Collins or Scott Brown. Is the political climate different? Perhaps, but there's no guarantee that another administration could not in the future cajole members of the other party to work with them.