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It seems quite a debate at moment in briton, yet it seems they get quite a weekly state pension topped up if under a set standard, free travel, free health treatment,some who rent get theres reduced and extra payments for heating in winter, but some who have a larger pension have to contribute to the care and they moan on. Do they want to take it with them!!! Im getting close to mine and checked it out and think i will be better off than working.

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Are you saying you'll be better off with a state pension and pension credit then you have been with wages? That surprises me.

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Originally posted by yo its me
Are you saying you'll be better off with a state pension and pension credit then you have been with wages? That surprises me.
No - English teachers' pay is very low these days.....

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Originally posted by Redmike
No - English teachers' pay is very low these days.....
Really? Are you being serious?

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Originally posted by revbute
Really? Are you being serious?
Wasn't being entirely serious.

But, I don't think teachers are paid enough, no.

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Originally posted by Redmike
Wasn't being entirely serious.

But, I don't think teachers are paid enough, no.
In Dallas, Texas, and surrounding suburbs, starting teachers earn between $44,000 and $48,000. If you're a bi-lingualist, then you can get a $4,000 stipend for teaching illegal immigrants in their own language. Dallas has the cheapest housing out of any large city in America (about $125,000 for a 3 bedroom/2 bath), plus the cost of living is very reasonable compared with other major cities, especially back East or on the West coast. Add in the fact that teachers only work nine months out of the year and receive a guaranteed pension and free medical care, and one is at a loss to figure out what else we can give them to turn out kids who are going to be good citizens, workers or ready for college. My question: How much is enough?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
In Dallas, Texas, and surrounding suburbs, starting teachers earn between $44,000 and $48,000. If you're a bi-lingualist, then you can get a $4,000 stipend for teaching illegal immigrants in their own language. Dallas has the cheapest housing out of any large city in America (about $125,000 for a 3 bedroom/2 bath), plus the cost of living is very ...[text shortened]... o are going to be good citizens, workers or ready for college. My question: How much is enough?
How does that compare with jobs in the private sector, where the same sort of academic qualifications are required?

My point wasn't entirely serious, was meant in a UK context, and was really a dig at the standard of English in the original post, but I'm happy for the thread to go off on this tangent.

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Originally posted by Redmike
How does that compare with jobs in the private sector, where the same sort of academic qualifications are required?

My point wasn't entirely serious, was meant in a UK context, and was really a dig at the standard of English in the original post, but I'm happy for the thread to go off on this tangent.
Public school teachers are not underpaid relative to other professionals, says Richard Vedder of Ohio University. Furthermore, not only are their salaries comparable to many other professions which require similar levels of education and experience, teachers receive more vacation days and better benefits than most professional workers.

http://www.hoover.org/publications/ednext/3347411.html

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Public school teachers are not underpaid relative to other professionals, says Richard Vedder of Ohio University. Furthermore, not only are their salaries comparable to many other professions which require similar levels of education and experience, teachers receive more vacation days and better benefits than most professional workers.

http://www.hoover.org/publications/ednext/3347411.html
Fairy nuff.

Is it just in a UK context they're underpaid then?

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It is absolutely abssurd to say teachers are not underpaid in the US.
I was a New York City teacher and now I have a higher paid job where I have time to point out a few facts.
(1) They are required to have a masters degree.
(2) They work ten, not nine months a year.
(3) They are forced to work without air condition (it is tough to think of any other in door job in the US).
(4) They have a tremendous amount of take home work. They are forced to work in bad areas (where belonging get stolen including parts of cars).
(5) They often have no place for their own personal belongings.
(6) They get no bonuses, they can accepted no gifts (grounds for firing), they get no overtime and jobs such as afterschool jobs are paid at a rate less than their normal salary.
(7) Their are strict conflict of interest rules where you can be fired for violating.

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Originally posted by yo its me
Are you saying you'll be better off with a state pension and pension credit then you have been with wages? That surprises me.
what im saying is i will be with the extra benifits that come with it or at least no worse off.

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Originally posted by poundlee
It is absolutely abssurd to say teachers are not underpaid in the US.
I was a New York City teacher and now I have a higher paid job where I have time to point out a few facts.
(1) They are required to have a masters degree.
(2) They work ten, not nine months a year.
(3) They are forced to work without air condition (it is tough to think of any ot ...[text shortened]... l salary.
(7) Their are strict conflict of interest rules where you can be fired for violating.
What are teachers brining to the table when over 50 percent of minorities in urban districts across America are dropping out and only half of those students who graduate and go to college are prepared to do college-level work? Perhaps teachers should first focus on what they are supposed to do: Graduate competent students who are prepared to contribute to society, be good workers or well prepared for the rigors of a college curriculum?

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Originally posted by poundlee
It is absolutely abssurd to say teachers are not underpaid in the US.
I was a New York City teacher and now I have a higher paid job where I have time to point out a few facts.
(1) They are required to have a masters degree.
(2) They work ten, not nine months a year.
(3) They are forced to work without air condition (it is tough to think of any ot ...[text shortened]... l salary.
(7) Their are strict conflict of interest rules where you can be fired for violating.
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3. where I have time => (doesn't belong here).
4. masters => master's.
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6. air condition => air conditioning.
7. in door => indoor.
8. belonging => belongings.
9. stolen => stolen,.
10. accepted => accept.
11. Their => There.
12. where => for which.

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Originally posted by stoker
It seems quite a debate at moment in briton, yet it seems they get quite a weekly state pension topped up if under a set standard, free travel, free health treatment,some who rent get theres reduced and extra payments for heating in winter, but some who have a larger pension have to contribute to the care and they moan on. Do they want to take it with them!!! Im getting close to mine and checked it out and think i will be better off than working.
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