23 Nov 09
We badly need a one payer health care system. It's true, taxes will go up, however, salaries and employment willl sky rocket once businesses do not have to pay for health care. Also, by cutting out insurance companies, there will be enough to cover all all the uninsured. Additionally, prices would fall as businesses no longer need to earn the money to pay for employee health insurance. In conclusion, a one payer system would be a giant stimulus for the economy.
23 Nov 09
Originally posted by 667joeBecause in Canada, they never have any problems with their single payer system.
We badly need a one payer health care system. It's true, taxes will go up, however, salaries and employment willl sky rocket once businesses do not have to pay for health care. Also, by cutting out insurance companies, there will be enough to cover all all the uninsured. Additionally, prices would fall as businesses no longer need to earn the money to ...[text shortened]... health insurance. In conclusion, a one payer system would be a giant stimulus for the economy.
23 Nov 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorraI think that a country with 10% of the population of another country is going to have fewer problems of all types. You mean per capita? I don't know. I have Canadian friends who whine plenty about their healthcare system and there are plenty of anecdotes of Canadians crossing the border to get life saving treatment that they couldn't get in their socialist utopia*. Why don't these "problems" get more media play? I don't know. Everything in the US gets outsize attention for whatever reason. In addition, American media outlets dominate in Canada while Canadian media is rarely heard from in most US markets. Maybe we don't hear about Canadians' healthcare problems because nobody talks about them.
I'm sure you agree that Canada has fewer problems with their health care system compared to the US?
* - sorry for the inflammatory rhetoric; I don't really mean that Canada is socialist; I just thought that phraseology sounded cool.
23 Nov 09
Originally posted by sh76Maybe they don't get talked about because they don't exist, your anecdotal evidence notwithstanding.
I think that a country with 10% of the population of another country is going to have fewer problems of all types. You mean per capita? I don't know. I have Canadian friends who whine plenty about their healthcare system and there are plenty of anecdotes of Canadians crossing the border to get life saving treatment that they couldn't get in their socialist utop ...[text shortened]... n't really mean that Canada is socialist; I just thought that phraseology sounded cool.
23 Nov 09
Originally posted by 667joe...all I can say is "GOOD LUCK!" Too many people in America think that whatever is good for the Insurance Companies and HMO's is automatically good for America. In the meantime millions will continue to be denied healthcare because too many people in the good 'ol USA just don't give a damn about them.! God bless America!😏
We badly need a one payer health care system. It's true, taxes will go up, however, salaries and employment willl sky rocket once businesses do not have to pay for health care. Also, by cutting out insurance companies, there will be enough to cover all all the uninsured. Additionally, prices would fall as businesses no longer need to earn the money to ...[text shortened]... health insurance. In conclusion, a one payer system would be a giant stimulus for the economy.
23 Nov 09
Originally posted by sh76There are of course plenty of anecdotes of people reporting problems. But if you look at the actual facts, would you agree that Canada has fewer problems (per capita) with its health care system?
I think that a country with 10% of the population of another country is going to have fewer problems of all types. You mean per capita? I don't know. I have Canadian friends who whine plenty about their healthcare system and there are plenty of anecdotes of Canadians crossing the border to get life saving treatment that they couldn't get in their socialist utop ...[text shortened]... n't really mean that Canada is socialist; I just thought that phraseology sounded cool.
23 Nov 09
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Originally posted by KazetNagorra"Problem" is too vague a term for me to answer that question. Is waiting 7 months for elective surgery a "problem"? It is if you're the one waiting.
There are of course plenty of anecdotes of people reporting problems. But if you look at the actual facts, would you agree that Canada has fewer problems (per capita) with its health care system?
23 Nov 09
Originally posted by sh76Is not getting any surgery at all a "problem"?
"Problem" is too vague a term for me to answer that question. Is waiting 7 months for elective surgery a "problem"? It is if you're the one waiting.
Anyways, let's not get dragged down into anecdote territory once again. Let's look at costs, for example.