@AverageJoe1 saidI don't think I wrote that it was all ok. But I did say that the article you shared included a lot of shallow thinking.
I’m just trying to understand how liberal give-it-all-away people think it is normal for there to be hundreds of government owned office buildings, in which there are only one percent of government employees working physically on the premises.
Why all OK? How can you find this reasonable, what changed? Seriously.
What would you prefer? Do you want to fill up those buildings with more government bureaucrats?
Do you want to force work from home to commute hours per day, which would undoubtedly reduce efficiency?
@wildgrass saidSo, you think that I can practice my profession while all of my staff is at home? Everyone has been driving in traffic for 100 years.....so here is another typical lib bent, you want to change things.
I don't think I wrote that it was all ok. But I did say that the article you shared included a lot of shallow thinking.
What would you prefer? Do you want to fill up those buildings with more government bureaucrats?
Do you want to force work from home to commute hours per day, which would undoubtedly reduce efficiency?
Why do libs want to change things at every turn, even change their gender? Do you really feel whole when you are about all this crap? It is OK to open the border now, after a couple of hundred years? And put a clueless girl in charge of it? You want a govt to have revenues of 4 trillion, but spend 6 trillion? Not that you want it, nobody wants that, , but, well maybe you DO want it, because none of the faeries on this Forum have ever spoken out against it.
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@AverageJoe1 said6% on a full-time basis. It's even in the title of the article.
Do you think Sleepy Joe knew this was going on? Did he try to straighten it out, fire all those losers? Trump will. Do y'all fell sorry for them? I don't. If you take away security and maintenance people, it is only about 1%. They 'work' from home, and draw billions in salary. I'd like to be the one who fires them, like I wanted to push the button at Hiroshima. ...[text shortened]... ews/only-6-of-federal-workers-show-up-in-person-on-a-full-time-basis-scathing-senate-report-reveals/
This means that if a federal worker works remotely even 1 day out of 5 per week, then they're included in that other 94%.
It is nowadays not at all unusual in the private sector to work from home at least some of the time.
https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights/americans-are-embracing-flexible-work-and-they-want-more-of-it
The most striking figure to emerge from this research is 58 percent. That’s the number of Americans who reported having the opportunity to work from home at least one day a week.
Of course, that 58% figure applies to the entire workforce, including construction workers and McDonald's cashiers. When it comes down to jobs that entail just sitting at a desk answering phones or typing on a keyboard, the percentage of those working remotely will be much higher.
There is in fact no evidence to support the idea that remote work is less efficient. In fact the opposite appears true:
https://www.monitask.com/en/blog/are-remote-employees-more-productive
A recent study by the Harvard Business Review found that remote employees are more productive than their on-site workers/ office workers. The reason is that they are less likely to take time off and quit. A separate study highlights that employees who work remotely can save up to $4,500 annually on commuting costs.
Meanwhile, it is well-known that Elon Musk (also mentioned in your article) has a pathological hatred of remote workers. When he took over Twitter he put an end to remote work, and since then "ex-Twitter" has been on a downward spiral, become dysfunctional and toxic, and appears to be headed for the grave. A new competitor called BlueSky may well finally put it out of its misery.
Remote work is innovation. It takes cars off the road and saves employees many hours a week commuting. Remote workers are less likely to quit, decreasing the need for training replacements. They also take fewer sick days and less time off, and are demonstrably more productive.
And yet, all that aside, the administrative echelons of the federal government appear to be functioning just as well as before the Covid pandemic when remote work was rare. Wow. Imagine that. With only 6% punching in in-person 5 days a week, things continue to get done. But these are fact, and I know you do not bother with facts. You get your news from a literal trash tabloid.
@shavixmir saidAveJoe punctuation translations:
You are really a complete retard, aren’t you?
Even your style of writing oozes moronity.
I bet you’re some sort of crack smoking homeless grunt, who stole a phone off an old lady and stumbled upon this site looking for porn.
,,,,,,, = 1 swig of whiskey.
......... = Sucking down a quarter of a bottle in one go.
@AverageJoe1 saidIf an employee can do the same job at home, then forcing that person to drive to the office is a waste of time. A good manager can evaluate an employee based on productivity goals, not hours spent in the office the whittling trinkets.
So, you think that I can practice my profession while all of my staff is at home? Everyone has been driving in traffic for 100 years.....so here is another typical lib bent, you want to change things.
Why do libs want to change things at every turn, even change their gender? Do you really feel whole when you are about all this crap? It is OK to open the border no ...[text shortened]... ell maybe you DO want it, because none of the faeries on this Forum have ever spoken out against it.
I've always consistently advocated for reduced government spending on that forum. Your favorite president just happens to be one of the folks responsible for making a bad problem even worse. Remember the 7.8 trillion dollars overspent between 2016-2020? I do.
Nobody is left who really cares about a fiscally responsible government. MAGA ran them all off.
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidI hope you like waiting in line, snowflake.
“Federal workers are some of the most dedicated employees.”
dedicated to what? shooting up a post office?
Because you let some stupid businessmen decide how to run your government, good luck getting them to do anything for you when there's only one person in that office. One person who was never trained properly because you had everyone else fired. Good luck trying to get anything straightened out at a government agency with a minimal workforce. And then you'll even blame THAT on them.
And another thing. Federal workers were almost the only workers still going to work every day during the pandemic. For you, the American people.
Be very careful what you wish for.
Morons.
@Soothfast saidI take exception to that 6% figure.
6% on a full-time basis. It's even in the title of the article.
This means that if a federal worker works remotely even 1 day out of 5 per week, then they're included in that other 94%.
It is nowadays not at all unusual in the private sector to work from home at least some of the time.
https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights/americans ...[text shortened]... are fact, and I know you do not bother with facts. You get your news from a literal trash tabloid.
Everyone who works in my building at work come in to work every day of the week. AND did the same during the pandemic. The US mail cannot be processed at home. These fools see government employees as slugs. These people work harder every day than most I had to work with in the private sector before I got on here. All these people know about government is what their Orange Jesus tells them, and even he doesn't know what he's talking about. We still sort and deliver as much mail as we did before the pandemic and now we're doing it withOUT sending mail to other cities by jet planes. Our PMG figures we can get mail where it's going just as well using only trucks. So goodbye delivery standards which had been in place for the last fifty years. We're only able to do this because of the outstanding dedication of everyone I work with. I defy ANY private sector company to do what we do for 73 cents, which is the price of a First-Class stamp. And we do it without taking a DIME of government budget money. We pay our own way.
So do yourself a favor and don't listen to these led-around-by-the-nose Trumpublicans.
@AverageJoe1 saidSTOP LYING!!
I’m just trying to understand how liberal give-it-all-away people think it is normal for there to be hundreds of government owned office buildings, in which there are only one percent of government employees working physically on the premises.
Why all OK? How can you find this reasonable, what changed? Seriously.
@AverageJoe1 saidAfter they see how it has ruined America?
A prediction from average Joe. Europe, maybe the rest of the world, will slowly drift into populism, following the lead of Donald Trump. I’m sure that you know that that is happening in his mind.
A genius
Stop smoking crack.
@Suzianne saidYes, I do not doubt that the 6% figure is cherry-picking, and am short of time to address it. There are legions of federal workers who do things that cannot be done remotely, as you point out. The 6% figure, if it isn't purely manufactured, probably is cherry-picking desk jockeys in Washington DC proper. As Wildgrass pointed out, commuting in DC is absolute hell and a terrific waste of time, resources, and productivity. Plus all those parking structures have to be built and maintained.
I take exception to that 6% figure.
Everyone who works in my building at work come in to work every day of the week. AND did the same during the pandemic. The US mail cannot be processed at home. These fools see government employees as slugs. These people work harder every day than most I had to work with in the private sector before I got on here. All these people k ...[text shortened]... r own way.
So do yourself a favor and don't listen to these led-around-by-the-nose Trumpublicans.
AveJoe is certainly an imbecile with few peers, so it's all to be expected.
@Suzianne saidSuzianne says the article is wrong. The paid employees, and the paid janitors and maintenance security people , used to all come to work.
I take exception to that 6% figure.
Everyone who works in my building at work come in to work every day of the week. AND did the same during the pandemic. The US mail cannot be processed at home. These fools see government employees as slugs. These people work harder every day than most I had to work with in the private sector before I got on here. All these people k ...[text shortened]... r own way.
So do yourself a favor and don't listen to these led-around-by-the-nose Trumpublicans.
Today, 1%^ of the employees come in, and the maintenance and security people make up the other 5%. Maybe we read diff articles
@wildgrass saidPlus when workers are remote, the government or business saves on the cost of maintaining office space. Fewer cars means less pollution and use of climate damaging fossil fuels.
Have you tried driving in DC rush hour traffic? Grid lock for miles resulting in hundreds of hours per year in lost productivity. With good management, work from home is a solid approach to improving government efficiency.
This article seems to say that the abswnce of federal employees in government buildings is a bad thing, so we should hire more workers to fill the desks?
Silly shallow thinking all around.
@Soothfast saidThe people who drive to my downtown office prob average close to 45 minutes as well. Golly, we can't have that, can we. Next they will writing all of you and asking you how to march with signs, asking how you get permitted to parade around in your gay hats and signs
Yes, I do not doubt that the 6% figure is cherry-picking, and am short of time to address it. There are legions of federal workers who do things that cannot be done remotely, as you point out. The 6% figure, if it isn't purely manufactured, probably is cherry-picking desk jockeys in Washington DC proper. As Wildgrass pointed out, commuting in DC is absolute hell and a te ...[text shortened]... built and maintained.
AveJoe is certainly an imbecile with few peers, so it's all to be expected.
And Wgrass used the word 'forcing'. them to drive. The job is voluntary, so therefore, forcing is impossible. They drive, or quit. You libs. 'Fooooorrrccce"
@A-Unique-Nickname saidMy daughter has worked remotely for a large corporation since before Covid. She loves it. She gets far more work done due to fewer interruptions.
Is working from home a new thing? 😁 Probably get more work done then going into the office with all the distractions.
@AverageJoe1 saidListen, you silly old asshole: go do some real research on in-person productivity vs. remote. I already provided links up a ways here. You're swallowing ridiculous Trumpian propaganda again that can demonstrably be proven outright false. Does that just never register? At all?
The people who drive to my downtown office prob average close to 45 minutes as well. Golly, we can't have that, can we. Next they will writing all of you and asking you how to march with signs, asking how you get permitted to parade around in your gay hats and signs
And one of you used the word 'forcing'. them to drive. The job is voluntary, so therefore, forcing is impossible. They drive, or quit. You libs. 'Fooooorrrccce"