pelosi guilty

@mott-the-hoople said
...of violating 18 USC 2071(b)

“(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disquali ...[text shortened]... nclude the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.”

@suzianne said
Would Trump be equally guilty if his speech contained "falsifications"?

@suzianne said
Why do you defend a con man?

@mghrn55 said
I thought she was ripping up a copy of the National Enquirer ?? 😛

@averagejoe1 said
No, he is not violating a federal law. Plus, you would have to prove it.....Pelosi destroyed government property on TV. Lock her up. You LIKE her, Suzy? Creepy.

@averagejoe1 said
Hillary is not a man, (at least i think he/she is not) and i for one do not defend her

@averagejoe1 said
No no, MGM. she was destroying govt property, as did Hillary with the acid and hammers. THAT is agains the law. I predict that neither of these creatures will do time!!!!!!

@mott-the-hoople said
pelosi tore up an official document. The newspaper deal is strictly of your making, rather stupid to mention it.

@Rank-outsider
“You are the one suggesting that every physical piece of paper that a person in public office possesses that has some vague connection to the Government and/or the legal system is protected by law.”

YOU are the one doing that.

@mott-the-hoople said
...of violating 18 USC 2071(b)

“(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disquali ...[text shortened]... nclude the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.”

@mchill said
I learned a long time ago, if one is not a lawyer, it's not wise to try to be one.

Maybe you should learn this too. 🙂

@mott-the-hoople said
@Rank-outsider
“You are the one suggesting that every physical piece of paper that a person in public office possesses that has some vague connection to the Government and/or the legal system is protected by law.”

YOU are the one doing that.

@Rank-outsider

Let’s take a look at the actual statute here.

The law reads, in relevant part [emphasis added]:

Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

Pay attention to the italics and it’s easy enough to understand why Pelosi’s personal shredding gesture would not rise to the behavior prohibited by the statute—and why people like Higbie and Kirk intentionally omitted the language. That’s because the document itself is not covered by the statute at all.

Trump handed Pelosi a copy of the speech. He didn’t file this copy with any official—clerk or otherwise—whose job it is to make sure such documents are collected, recorded and physically and legally protected. The president gave Pelosi a copy of his address as a memento of sorts. This action wasn’t an official deposit. It was an act of theater.

@rank-outsider said
@Rank-outsider

[quote]Let’s take a look at the actual statute here.

The law reads, in relevant part [emphasis added]:

Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited ...[text shortened]... py of a transcript of a speech is a crime punishable by 3 years imprisonment is too silly for words.

@mott-the-hoople said
I learned a long time ago it is easier to debate when you use correct information. That way you dont have to make stupid posts trying to cover for being wrong.