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29 Oct 23
29 Oct 23
I admiit to not being well versed in the conflilct going on, all those people seem the same to me, with all due respects. I have to no time to study up on it anyway, since it will change and change and change.
So.......Can you in favor of Israel tell us what you want, and more specifically, what would happen IF you got what you want?.
So, ....Can you who favor Palestine tell us what you want, and more specifically, what would happen if you got what you want?
29 Oct 23
@averagejoe1 saidIt’s people who favour not slaughtering thousands of civilians on top of the thousands that have already been slaughtered in Israel and Palestine
I admiit to not being well versed in the conflilct going on, all those people seem the same to me, with all due respects. I have to no time to study up on it anyway, since it will change and change and change.
So.......Can you in favor of Israel tell us what you want, and more specifically, what would happen IF you got what you want?.
So, ....Can you who favor Palestine tell us what you want, and more specifically, what would happen if you got what you want?
It’s US taxpayers saying do not spend my dollars on feeding the Israeli war machine that is doing nothing more than extracting a grossly disproportionate revenge on Palestinian civilians.
I don’t think they necessarily have any more solid solutions to the Israeli Palestinian conflict in general than you or I
My guess based on my own view of this tragedy
29 Oct 23
@kevcvs57 saidSay, the people marching in Brooklyn. They want Israel to stop? So if they 'stop', what would happen then? Israel lays down arms. They go home to their houses.
It’s people who favour not slaughtering thousands of civilians on top of the thousands that have already been slaughtered in Israel and Palestine
It’s US taxpayers saying do not spend my dollars on feeding the Israeli war machine that is doing nothing more than extracting a grossly disproportionate revenge on Palestinian civilians.
I don’t think they necessarily have any ...[text shortened]... sraeli Palestinian conflict in general than you or I
My guess based on my own view of this tragedy
What result is desired by Palestine.
And then, vice versa?
29 Oct 23
@averagejoe1 saidIt's simple. Look at the Hamas charter it says what the Palestinians want to achieve. They want all the Jews out and full control of Palestine. The Jews want the borders of Israel that they had back in AD40 when the Roman's removed them.
I admiit to not being well versed in the conflilct going on, all those people seem the same to me, with all due respects. I have to no time to study up on it anyway, since it will change and change and change.
So.......Can you in favor of Israel tell us what you want, and more specifically, what would happen IF you got what you want?.
So, ....Can you who favor Palestine tell us what you want, and more specifically, what would happen if you got what you want?
29 Oct 23
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@averagejoe1 saidIt's worth mentioning that war protestors are skewered over and over again throughout history... by the war mongers. They are terrorist sympathizers or communists or whatever. Most of the time the protestors are right.
I admiit to not being well versed in the conflilct going on, all those people seem the same to me, with all due respects. I have to no time to study up on it anyway, since it will change and change and change.
So.......Can you in favor of Israel tell us what you want, and more specifically, what would happen IF you got what you want?.
So, ....Can you who favor Palestine tell us what you want, and more specifically, what would happen if you got what you want?
29 Oct 23
@rajk999 saidThanks Raj, so it appears then that if Marauder, for instance, gets his way with Palestinian victory, which would be a total riddance of the Jews, that this is what he wants? ?? That cannot be. Do you thnk Marauder will i]pursue this course on the Forum, or will he respond with something that makes sense to us?
It's simple. Look at the Hamas charter it says what the Palestinians want to achieve. They want all the Jews out and full control of Palestine. The Jews want the borders of Israel that they had back in AD40 when the Roman's removed them.
30 Oct 23
@AverageJoe1
Palestinians want an end to the blockade of Gaza. Israel turn Gaza into a prison.
They also want the land back that Zionists stole from them. And stop bombing Gaza so you can get the civilian hostages released. Hamas offered to do that. Had you heard that or are you getting your news from crap sources?
It isn't like Israel has not done prisoner swaps before. If appeasing hostage takers worsens the problem that ship has sailed. Now all of the sudden Israel decided to not make the same mistake again? Why doesn't Israel stop bombing just long enough to get the civilian hostages released? Would it kill them to take a break from killing children?
Less children killed and the civilian hostages released. Who loses?
30 Oct 23
@averagejoe1 saidBoth the Israelis and the Palestinians want to live normal lives in peace, security and, believe it or not, in houses (which aren’t being bombed, stolen or infiltrated).
I admiit to not being well versed in the conflilct going on, all those people seem the same to me, with all due respects. I have to no time to study up on it anyway, since it will change and change and change.
So.......Can you in favor of Israel tell us what you want, and more specifically, what would happen IF you got what you want?.
So, ....Can you who favor Palestine tell us what you want, and more specifically, what would happen if you got what you want?
Extremists on both sides would rather than the other side disappear altogether.
That’s it in a nutshell.
30 Oct 23
@shavixmir saidIf Hamas disappeared the right wing politicians of Israel would have to create another one and western media would support them all the way
Both the Israelis and the Palestinians want to live normal lives in peace, security and, believe it or not, in houses (which aren’t being bombed, stolen or infiltrated).
Extremists on both sides would rather than the other side disappear altogether.
That’s it in a nutshell.
30 Oct 23
@averagejoe1 saidWe will soon find out.
Thanks Raj, so it appears then that if Marauder, for instance, gets his way with Palestinian victory, which would be a total riddance of the Jews, that this is what he wants? ?? That cannot be. Do you thnk Marauder will i]pursue this course on the Forum, or will he respond with something that makes sense to us?
30 Oct 23
@metal-brain saidIts a war. Bullets and bombs are flying around. People are going to be killed, children included. If you dont want that, there are ways to get out, or hide like how Hamas is doing in their tunnels. Hamas has left the population above ground to take the bullets. If you survive then make sure next time Hamas is not elected.
@AverageJoe1
Palestinians want an end to the blockade of Gaza. Israel turn Gaza into a prison.
They also want the land back that Zionists stole from them. And stop bombing Gaza so you can get the civilian hostages released. Hamas offered to do that. Had you heard that or are you getting your news from crap sources?
It isn't like Israel has not done prisoner swaps bef ...[text shortened]... break from killing children?
Less children killed and the civilian hostages released. Who loses?
30 Oct 23
@shavixmir saidBoth want peace now. When peace comes, Hamas will revert to their stated goals in their charter. The Jews will respond in like manner. Nothing changes. This has been on going for over 100 years.
Both the Israelis and the Palestinians want to live normal lives in peace, security and, believe it or not, in houses (which aren’t being bombed, stolen or infiltrated).
Extremists on both sides would rather than the other side disappear altogether.
That’s it in a nutshell.
30 Oct 23
@rajk999 saidThousands of years. It cannot possibly end. Ever. Too bad we can't just let them live the lives they seem to want to live, like the Tutu and Wallabee tribes in North Africa. I don't see anyone intervening in their murderous way of life. It is what they do. We sit on the porch on Sunday and drink lemonade, they go with machetes from hut to hut. It is what they do.
Both want peace now. When peace comes, Hamas will revert to their stated goals in their charter. The Jews will respond in like manner. Nothing changes. This has been on going for over 100 years.
30 Oct 23
@rajk999 saidI fukking hope you get bombed, you skanky, uwed, arse wipe of a human being.
Its a war. Bullets and bombs are flying around. People are going to be killed, children included. If you dont want that, there are ways to get out, or hide like how Hamas is doing in their tunnels. Hamas has left the population above ground to take the bullets. If you survive then make sure next time Hamas is not elected.