@earl-of-trumps said"At the end of the day, we all end up in the same place" (Kamala). Ironic, I m jusr teaching my grandson, never strive to get ahead of, or be better than , the next guy. No losers, no winners. An amazing peace settles over me..........
And don't forget, AJ, no Mulligans and no handicap. That is soooooo socialist lol
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@mott-the-hoople saidA preliminary injunction is very much part of a "normal court process". A jury (assuming there is one in this case) can award damages for violations of rights, but it cannot restrain conduct that amounts to such a violation in advance. That is the province of a judge.
makes all the sense in the world, unless you are stupid.
It was my point that cases like this should proceed through the normal court process. Instead this activist judge stepped in when there was no rush.
remember when those acitivist judges were striking down Trumps orders, banning travel from china? now biden bans travel from india and not a peep out of them, not even labeled xenophobic as biden himself said.
And yes there's a "rush" when police intend to continue practices which violate the People's rights.
@averagejoe1 saidTotalitarian fascism I call it.
I guess I’m not into demonstrations, the walking in the street stuff. They don’t exactly follow the Martin Luther king rules, anymore, ,,,,so, I have to say the marchers usually ‘have it coming ‘, and should be in jail. Sorry ,sounds rough to tender ears. Tough love we call it.
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^^^ Above youtube is about this:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-al-capone-cicero-election-johnny-torrio-per-0322-jm-20150319-story.html
"Bullets Fly in Cicero on Election Eve" was the headline over a story that described "gun play and riotous scenes" in the western suburb ahead of its local vote. The man who had the nerve to run against Mayor Joseph Klenha was roughly handled, to say the least. Gunmen shot up his offices, and he "fled from the headquarters with bullets whistling at his heels and took refuge in a nearby house."
this is really sad. And again... Chicago, my kind of town.
Pastor And Wife Recovering After Attacker Bit Off Parts Of Their Ears, Gouged Their Eyes In Vicious Beating
The title says enough to sicken you. Peaceful, elderly, community leaders, viciously attacked. Jeeeezus.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/05/05/south-side-attack-pastor-ear-bitten-beaten/
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@no1marauder saidIt is a complex issue with no simple solution. America’s police departments are locally administered, locally trained, and locally funded. There are few if any national standards (Miranda springs to mind). And in general American police have less training than the police of many other industrialized nations. The consequence is a wide variation in policing professionalism across the nation. The CA Highway Patrol, for example, is a very professional police force (at least it was when I lived there). At the other end of the spectrum, I recall a news item about a policeman who had been called to remove an unruly high school student from a classroom. The student flat refused to leave her desk, and the policeman stupidly attempted to separate her from her desk, alone, by sheer muscle. Of course it ended in a scuffle. I have seen with my own eyes how other police departments deal with noncompliance. In Switzerland, for example, if someone flat refuses to comply, the police call for backup. 6 or 8 officers hold the person, one or two on each arm and leg, and they know how to do it without anyone getting hurt, and off they go to the padded cell until the person calms down. In Japan, if someone makes a stink, the police bring a carpet; put the carpet on the ground, wrestle the person onto the carpet, roll up the person inside the carpet, and cart him off. Bloody simple. American police tend to rely too much on tech (tasers, etc.) when much simpler means would suffice to restrain recalcitrant people.
"This case is the sad tale of police officers, clothed with the awesome power of the state, run amok."
So writes Federal Judge ALGENON L. MARBLEY in describing the actions of the Columbus, Ohio police during last summer's protests against police violence. (https://www.nbc4i.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2021/04/real-order.pdf p. 2).
After concluding that the plai ...[text shortened]... bber-bullets-against
This type of "police riot" was a typical response to the protests last year.
Second, America has become a battlefield. Citizens are too heavily armed, in many instances more heavily armed than law enforcement is allowed to be. This has led to militarization of police departments (SWAT teams on demand etc.). If American citizens were not so heavily armed, its police would not need to be either. There is simply no good reason for civilians to have semi-automatic weaponry. However, because America will not deal with the issue of sensible regulation of weapons in private hands, it must accept the logical consequence, of militarized policing.
Third, there is a level of disrespect for authority in America which further complicates the job of every policeman on the beat. The world saw an eruption of that on January 6th. In any civilized country, a policeman’s uniform and badge alone should be sufficient to get compliance from ordinary citizens (we’re not talking about bank robbers here). He should not need guns and tasers and body armor to get compliance from ordinary citizens. Good grief, look at England — their police go about unarmed. It is not the fault of America’s police that there is so little respect for government among the ordinary citizenry. It was ordinary citizens who showed up at the Capitol on January 6th, not bank robbers; that’s you America, warts and all.
Of course, none of this excuses officers who get into a funk and run amok. Lack of training possibly, or lack of oversight.
@no1marauder saidTheir marching, their intent, their 'canceling' ia totalitarian, Marauder. Not their receiving appropriate jail sentences.. Did you know that a recent President of the United States has been banned for exercising his right of free speech on one of the liberal platforms? You won't believe it, can't send you a link right now.
Totalitarian fascism I call it.
@earl-of-trumps saidThey have taken to drag racing in very nice suburbs of Altanta nd other towns. This is how they celebrate, and it is just beginning. We know what they are celebrating, I hope, but I don't think it is Forum fare.
this is really sad. And again... Chicago, my kind of town.
Pastor And Wife Recovering After Attacker Bit Off Parts Of Their Ears, Gouged Their Eyes In Vicious Beating
The title says enough to sicken you. Peaceful, elderly, community leaders, viciously attacked. Jeeeezus.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/05/05/south-side-attack-pastor-ear-bitten-beaten/
@moonbus saidSorry, but i think that there is indeed a simple solution. Biden is all about using trillions for his absolutely horrible pleasure, millions to the Kennedy Cenger, 500,000 to study cranberries, (look it up), etc......
It is a complex issue with no simple solution. America’s police departments are locally administered, locally trained, and locally funded. There are few if any national standards (Miranda springs to mind). And in general American police have less training than the police of many other industrialized nations. The consequence is a wide variation in policing professionalism acr ...[text shortened]... excuses officers who get into a funk and run amok. Lack of training possibly, or lack of oversight.
This money could be used to train our military men on how to enforce the LAW in this country,......
That oughta do it.
@averagejoe1 saidMarauder. Elizabeth Warren Bernie Sanders and the Cortez women own Joe Biden. The example of the day is that they attack the drug makers and take their vaccine patents away and use them at their own discretion to share with anyone.
Their marching, their intent, their 'canceling' ia totalitarian, Marauder. Not their receiving appropriate jail sentences.. Did you know that a recent President of the United States has been banned for exercising his right of free speech on one of the liberal platforms? You won't believe it, can't send you a link right now.
Marauder.....THIS is totalitarian.
Please write back and tell us how this is not totalitarianism. Please?
@averagejoe1 saidI don't want to see that but if the lib mayors/governors/dems in congress keep reducing the ability of the police to do their job we may have to call on the military to control the mobs taking over our streets..
This money could be used to train our military men on how to enforce the LAW in this country,......
That oughta do it.
@averagejoe1 saidYou call somebody else "totalitarian" but you want to sig the US military on its own People?
Sorry, but i think that there is indeed a simple solution. Biden is all about using trillions for his absolutely horrible pleasure, millions to the Kennedy Cenger, 500,000 to study cranberries, (look it up), etc......
This money could be used to train our military men on how to enforce the LAW in this country,......
That oughta do it.