Originally posted by sh76It is not unusual for Asian leaders to be worshipped as gods. Many Japanese people used to believe their emperor was a god and were happy to go on suicide missions to serve him. After the USA won the war against the Japanese Empire our government realized the importance of getting the Emperor to instruct his people to accept the American occupation of Japan. Without it the occupation may have been very bloody.
It's bad enough that they're denied the potential prosperity of their southern cousins by a brutal, oppressive regime, but they're also expected to take part in charades like this.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/12/19/staged_north_koreans_extremely_emotional_over_kim_jong-ils_death.html
Can you get any less realistic?
Sad.
I watched the film clip. It doesn't look like they are all faking it to me. They are probably brainwashed by propaganda though. Pathetic? Sure. Fake? Not in my opinion.
Originally posted by sh76Oh, I remember princess Diana's death.
It's bad enough that they're denied the potential prosperity of their southern cousins by a brutal, oppressive regime, but they're also expected to take part in charades like this.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/12/19/staged_north_koreans_extremely_emotional_over_kim_jong-ils_death.html
Can you get any less realistic?
Sad.
Wasn't much different if you ask me.
If there truly is an example of an Orwellian phenomenon in today's world, it's that. The people might as well be standing in those perfect rows, hundreds deep and yelling into the camera about how much they hate Eurasia. Whether the people were actually literally forced to cry like that at gunpoint is immaterial. A society that can produce throngs of automatons behaving so unnaturally, whether by threat of force or mere brainwashing, is terribly unfortunate.
Originally posted by sh76I guess you hate Islamists too! 😉
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccsNr9UJeVY
If there truly is an example of an Orwellian phenomenon in today's world, it's that. The people might as well be standing in those perfect rows, hundreds deep and yelling into the camera about how much they hate Eurasia. Whether the people were actually literally forced to cry like that at gunpoint is immaterial. A ...[text shortened]... ving so unnaturally, whether by threat of force or mere brainwashing, is terribly unfortunate.
For there were Orwellian, organised rows, and hundreds of thousands in tears for Diana.
The throngs of 'automatons' were also present in a place called NY, as far as I 'total recall', not for being brainwashed of course.
-m. 😛
Originally posted by sh76Here is a news article that supports what I mentioned before. They do mention there is an incentive for them to weep in public and implies others are punished, but do you really expect our government to admit Kim has loyal followers there? They would then have to admit the reports of people starving there are exaggerated. Our government can't have that. Admitting to propaganda? Not likely. So you get what you have here. Propaganda on top of the weak propaganda to support it. Not that N. Korea does not have propaganda too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccsNr9UJeVY
If there truly is an example of an Orwellian phenomenon in today's world, it's that. The people might as well be standing in those perfect rows, hundreds deep and yelling into the camera about how much they hate Eurasia. Whether the people were actually literally forced to cry like that at gunpoint is immaterial. A ...[text shortened]... ving so unnaturally, whether by threat of force or mere brainwashing, is terribly unfortunate.
http://news.yahoo.com/north-korean-mourning-may-real-matter-survival-too-224509678.html
Think about it. Would N. Korea have a strong military without loyal followers? They have both. It is not fake.
The brainwashing is not new. Like I said, there is a long history of it in that part of the world. It has always been there. This is normal for them. Sad but true.
Originally posted by Metal BrainI'm not saying The Kims don't have loyal followers. Obviously they do.
Here is a news article that supports what I mentioned before. They do mention there is an incentive for them to weep in public and implies others are punished, but do you really expect our government to admit Kim has loyal followers there? They would then have to admit the reports of people starving there are exaggerated. Our government can't have that. ...[text shortened]... it in that part of the world. It has always been there. This is normal for them. Sad but true.
But what you see on that video is not natural grief but seemingly more the imaginings of some stiff bureaucrat of what grief ought to look like.
Originally posted by sh76Some of it is natural and I'm sure some of it is not. I would expect some pandering to the regime. People are only human. I think you underestimate just how well they have been brainwashed by propaganda though. It is easy when the foundation is already there to begin with. The European kingdoms promoted the same thing back in history.
I'm not saying The Kims don't have loyal followers. Obviously they do.
But what you see on that video is not natural grief but seemingly more the imaginings of some stiff bureaucrat of what grief ought to look like.
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Originally posted by sh76WARNING: Spoiler Alert for Team America: World Police
Yeah, it's a shame he fed Hans Blix (or is it Brix?) to the sharks. The guy turned out to be right about Iraq after all. He deserved a better fate.
I'd prefer to believe that he hasn't really died; just reverted to his true alien cockroach form and flown away in his tiny spaceship.
It's the romantic in me.
