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  1. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    19 Dec '11 21:41
    It's bad enough that they're denied the potential prosperity of their southern cousins by a brutal, oppressive regime, but they're also expected to take part in charades like this.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/12/19/staged_north_koreans_extremely_emotional_over_kim_jong-ils_death.html

    Can you get any less realistic?

    Sad.
  2. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    19 Dec '11 22:23
    Originally posted by sh76
    It's bad enough that they're denied the potential prosperity of their southern cousins by a brutal, oppressive regime, but they're also expected to take part in charades like this.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/12/19/staged_north_koreans_extremely_emotional_over_kim_jong-ils_death.html

    Can you get any less realistic?

    Sad.
    Why it is assumed that any expression of grief over a dictator's death must be staged?
  3. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    19 Dec '11 22:25
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Why it is assumed that any expression of grief over a dictator's death must be staged?
    Watch the video.

    Real people don't stand in perfect rows and uniformly wail and moan for minutes on end at the death of a political leader.

    How about the guy/gal who was literally pounding the pavement in "grief" about 10 straight times. Do you really think that's genuine?
  4. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    19 Dec '11 22:29 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    Watch the video.

    Real people don't stand in perfect rows and uniformly wail and moan for minutes on end at the death of a political leader.

    How about the guy/gal who was literally pounding the pavement in "grief" about 10 straight times. Do you really think that's genuine?
    Who knows what people in such situations do? North Korea is a weird place to us; why should we expect people there to act like they do in Manhattan?
  5. Standard member smw6869
    Granny
    19 Dec '11 22:38
    I cry like that ever night whem my husband enters the bedroom.but i shed tears. The Koreans did not. What's up with that?

    GRANNY.
  6. 19 Dec '11 23:05
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Who knows what people in such situations do? North Korea is a weird place to us; why should we expect people there to act like they do in Manhattan?
    Wow, you're actually buying that sh**
  7. 19 Dec '11 23:06
    I bet no1 was impressed by the acting in The Sound of Music too.
  8. Subscriber WoodPush
    Pusher of wood
    19 Dec '11 23:13 / 1 edit
    It's not staged. The cult of personality in N. Korea is shockingly strong.
    In some cases, it goes as far as Kim Jong Il being worshiped as a god -- some people going as far as believing Kim-Il-Sung created the world, and that Kim Jong Il can control the weather.

    Are the people you see on camera his most die-hard and crazed supporters? Certainly. But I don't believe for a second this is staged.

    Unless you mean to say that it's the outcome of a staged cult of personality, in which case I agree.
  9. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    19 Dec '11 23:26
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Wow, you're actually buying that sh**
    I didn't even bother to look at it. I and you and sh76 have no way of knowing whether it was "staged" or not.
  10. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    19 Dec '11 23:59
    Time for his little piggy son to find out what it's like when your own people hate you.
  11. 20 Dec '11 00:25
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Time for his little piggy son to find out what it's like when your own people hate you.
    Its an intriguing phenomenon that despite being a Communist country, North Korea seems so feudalistic in its order of succession.
  12. 20 Dec '11 01:17
    Originally posted by sh76
    It's bad enough that they're denied the potential prosperity of their southern cousins by a brutal, oppressive regime, but they're also expected to take part in charades like this.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/12/19/staged_north_koreans_extremely_emotional_over_kim_jong-ils_death.html

    Can you get any less realistic?

    Sad.
    But they sure know how to have fun!

    http://youtu.be/VJNBfBr-OGU
  13. 20 Dec '11 01:20
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    Its an intriguing phenomenon that despite being a Communist country, North Korea seems so feudalistic in its order of succession.
    Consider also that when the women's short skating team qualified for the Olympics but the men didn't, the women were not allowed to go because it would not be "seemly" to go without the men.

    Worse than feudal.
  14. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    20 Dec '11 01:21
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Why it is assumed that any expression of grief over a dictator's death must be staged?
    The whole nation could have Stockholm syndrome.
  15. 20 Dec '11 01:25 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    [b]Watch the video.

    Real people don't stand in perfect rows and uniformly wail and moan for minutes on end at the death of a political leader.
    Had you considered they were mourning his psychotic son taking his place? I heard he is even crazier.